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The British Army in Kenya

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ArabellaSaurus · 11/10/2025 07:17

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7dx324z4po

A disturbing story about a woman murdered thirteen years ago, whose family are still seeking a trial for the soldier said to have confessed.

What also shocked me was that it was 2022 before the Army made using prostitutes illegal.

Esther Njoki stares at the camera. She's drressed in a black jacket in a purple room, with a bright, circular cream-coloured light in the background

Agnes Wanjiru: Murdered Kenyan woman's niece to visit UK and press for ex-soldier's extradition

Esther Njoki says her family has been denied justice for 13 years after her aunt Agnes Wanjiru's body was found in a septic tank.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7dx324z4po

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ArabellaSaurus · 11/10/2025 07:18

'In 2024, the army announced it was launching an internal review into the conduct of British soldiers in Kenya, including in Nanyuki.
It found 35 suspected cases of soldiers having engaged in sexual exploitation and abuse, including transactional sex, with local women - nine of these being after the army officially banned such conduct in 2022.'

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rubyslippers · 11/10/2025 07:19

The Sunday Times has been running a series of investigative articles on this
it’s been a very sad eye opener

ArabellaSaurus · 11/10/2025 07:21

I've just started reading about it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjmveemj7zo.amp

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ArabellaSaurus · 11/10/2025 07:22

'The report follows years of controversy about the conduct of soldiers at Batuk sparked by an investigation by the Sunday Times in 2021 which revealed the alleged involvement of a British soldier in the murder of Ms Wanjiru, a mother of one '

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deadpan · 11/10/2025 07:45

The banning in 2022 is literally because of social and political pressure. Sadly, as with most men heavy "industries" respect for females is not in the agenda. A friend's daughter left the forces after having her legs tied together and hung from the ceiling, male soldiers coming up behind her while she was sitting and putting their willies on her shoulder and a lot more besides.
I've read about the family of this poor lovely woman before. Having a dad who's a nuclear veteran and knowing how they still don't have proper acknowledgement, it doesn't surprise me one bit about the treatment and killing of her being covered up by the MOD. If they release detail it'll expose the cesspit it sadly is.

Sheerdetermination · 11/10/2025 08:29

It’s an awful story but I’m so pleased every time it surfaces in the press because I realise it is not going away and hopefully justice will eventually prevail. The press have reported who the accused is. Respect to Ms Wanjiru’s family and the campaigners and lawyers who will not let the matter rest.

Helleofabore · 11/10/2025 10:12

Thank you Arabella for posting this.

ThatSpryShaker · 12/10/2025 08:30

Surprised the sexual violence and exploitation by British men hasn't attracted more responses. This is about our sons', fathers' and husbands'.

Sickoffamilydrama · 12/10/2025 10:29

Utterly unsurprising any institution that I male dominated shows the same behaviours.

The hard thing is how to change it.

OuterSpaceCadet · 12/10/2025 11:14

All this time I've been raging about Oxfam's behaviour in Haiti (and inadequate response to accusations) and I had no idea the Army was up to it too. Although, like others, I'm not especially surprised.

Another example of why there should be no sacred castes. No group or institution so well respected that its members be above suspicion. Why the conversation for me is primarily about men and male violence regardless of occupation, race, religion, or special identity. The objectification of women that is necessary for action like this to be so routine is cross cultural.

OuterSpaceCadet · 12/10/2025 11:21

Sickoffamilydrama · 12/10/2025 10:29

Utterly unsurprising any institution that I male dominated shows the same behaviours.

The hard thing is how to change it.

I know.

I think the first step is to be able to name it. Name male violence against women and girls every single time. Stop the media headlines which imply this violence just happens to women the same way one may trip over a fallen branch when going for a walk.

I wish every single incidence was reported. I wish women felt able to join together and be enraged at the world they're forced to live in.

But when even naming the violence and joining together with other women is made difficult, fuck knows how we stop men from perpetuating the violence.

Pleasantsort · 12/10/2025 11:22

Thank you, Arabella. The cruelty of men towards women shocks me over and over again. Shame on the Army for taking so long to ban using women in this way in Kenya . I hope Agnes' family can find some justice for her horrific murder.

hellowhaaat3632 · 13/10/2025 10:39

Sickoffamilydrama · 12/10/2025 10:29

Utterly unsurprising any institution that I male dominated shows the same behaviours.

The hard thing is how to change it.

And there will always be male dominated places because women simply can't do everything. We are thinly stretched. The only way would be to ingrain some kind of decency in men in the first place. A strong culture that respects both sexes.

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 13/10/2025 11:09

Thanks for this thread - we need to be bumping this and raising awareness regularly. It's a grim reminder of 'what goes on tour, stays on tour' kind of thinking that permeates a lot of British institutions.

Does anyone know if Rory and Alistair/other podcast bros have got stuck into this?

IwantToRetire · 18/10/2025 01:02

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Ex-British soldiers among those who fathered Kenyan children while at Army base, court rules

A number of men who were stationed at or connected with a British Army base in Kenya have been declared the fathers of Kenyan children by the High Court.

The children, aged from two to their mid-50s, were born near BATUK (British Army Training Unit Kenya) where the only non-black people are British Army personnel and civilians who work there.

Lawyers for 11 children had asked the court to order information be given to the government to help identify their fathers.

Ten of the men were located and seven accepted they were father to one of the children.

Full article https://news.sky.com/story/ex-british-soldiers-among-those-who-fathered-kenyan-children-while-at-army-base-court-rules-13450980

Ex-British soldiers among those who fathered Kenyan children while at Army base, court rules

In one case, a teenager who grew up thinking she was an orphan discovered that her father might be in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/ex-british-soldiers-among-those-who-fathered-kenyan-children-while-at-army-base-court-rules-13450980

OverlyFragrant · 18/10/2025 01:07

ThatSpryShaker · 12/10/2025 08:30

Surprised the sexual violence and exploitation by British men hasn't attracted more responses. This is about our sons', fathers' and husbands'.

Indeed.
The man accused has of course been named, and a newspaper tracked him down.
He's now a tradie, wouldn't do a double take in the street. It makes me shudder to think of the homes he's entered, the women he's spoken to, and what he's been accused of.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 18/10/2025 08:41

I had no idea about this. Horrifying and disgusting. 😱

Good on The Times for investigating the issue and bringing it to the surface. Unbelievable that the army only banned soldiers from using prostitutes in 2022!!!

Poor Agnes Wanjiru and her family. 😟

IwantToRetire · 21/04/2026 00:52

This is a follow up to this story.

Paternity has so far been legally confirmed in 12 of the cases by the UK's highest Family Court judge, a BBC World Service investigation can reveal.

The process provides answers for children who did not know where, or even in some cases who their fathers were - or who had been led to believe they had died. All have been seeking answers about their heritage, and have faced financial hardship. Most of the 12 confirmed cases are now eligible to register for British citizenship. Those under 18 or in further education will be eligible for child support.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c895k3537kgo

A young mixed race woman looks at herself in a mirror - she is wearing a black zip-up top and has braided long hair

'They told me he was dead': Children born near Kenyan army base learn truth about UK soldier dads

A DNA and legal project has identified the fathers of 20 children born near a military base in Kenya.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c895k3537kgo

MarieDeGournay · 21/04/2026 20:25

oldtiredcyclist · 21/04/2026 09:45

Just weeks after Agnes was murdered this happened. It goes to prove that the UK is as corrupt as other countries when it comes to upholding laws and dispensing justice.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/no-prosecution-of-british-soldier-who-shot-kenyan-in-back/

No action was taken against British soldiers who committed war crimes in Northern Ireland either, e.g the Ballymurphy Massacres in 1971, in which 11 unarmed civilians were killed.
Amongst the dead were a priest who had gone to tend to an injured person, while carrying a white cloth, was shot in the back; a teenager who crawled out to assist the priest was shot in the head.
A woman, a mother of eight, who crawled out to assist another injured teenager was shot, and left to die slowly while calling out for help.

The Parachute Regiment carried out these killings, and the same regiment - possibly even the same soldiers - went on to murder again on Bloody Sunday the next year.

The only member of the British Army responsible charged with murder for killing 13 unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday in 1972 , 'Solider F' was acquitted last year. He claimed he had 'no reliable recollection' of what he did that day.

If you maintain a lie for long enough, you can get away with murder.

Before that, Lee Clegg, the only other British solider to be held to account for killing unarmed civilians, was lionised by sections of the British press (as was 'Soldier F'), his conviction was overturned and he quickly returned to continue his army career.

oldtiredcyclist · Yesterday 09:46

MarieDeGournay · 21/04/2026 20:25

No action was taken against British soldiers who committed war crimes in Northern Ireland either, e.g the Ballymurphy Massacres in 1971, in which 11 unarmed civilians were killed.
Amongst the dead were a priest who had gone to tend to an injured person, while carrying a white cloth, was shot in the back; a teenager who crawled out to assist the priest was shot in the head.
A woman, a mother of eight, who crawled out to assist another injured teenager was shot, and left to die slowly while calling out for help.

The Parachute Regiment carried out these killings, and the same regiment - possibly even the same soldiers - went on to murder again on Bloody Sunday the next year.

The only member of the British Army responsible charged with murder for killing 13 unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday in 1972 , 'Solider F' was acquitted last year. He claimed he had 'no reliable recollection' of what he did that day.

If you maintain a lie for long enough, you can get away with murder.

Before that, Lee Clegg, the only other British solider to be held to account for killing unarmed civilians, was lionised by sections of the British press (as was 'Soldier F'), his conviction was overturned and he quickly returned to continue his army career.

My late mother was a Catholic born in Coleraine, so I know a fair bit about that horrendous day.

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