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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
WimbledonWhites · 05/10/2025 20:00

It’s good this is coming out.

However, she claims her complaint was simply passed between Greater Manchester police and Lincolnshire police and that neither took any action.

Helen Joyce similar is happening with her situation with Watson, that it’s just being batted between two police forces.

JaquelineHide · 05/10/2025 22:48

Watson really worries me. He seems to be spiraling.

BiologicalRobot · 05/10/2025 23:33

Thank you for the share token. It beggers belief that he can post horrible accusations and comments against people and get away with it but GL's comment warrants five officers arresting him as he gets off a plane. Fucking useless police.

Contemporaneouslyagog · 05/10/2025 23:38

I hope that more people read this

LondonGalll · 06/10/2025 06:25

why is Lincolnshire police so utterly rubbish? They have oversight of so many Watson occurrences so should be central in taking action.

makes me wonder if Watson has friends at Lincolnshire police?

Rightsraptor · 06/10/2025 06:42

I can't read the comments as it's a share token article - what's the general tone? I'd imagine 'WTAF?'

Why are these cases always pingponging between GMP & Lincolnshire police? And why hasn't Watson been declared a vexatious litigant by now? So many questions.

borntobequiet · 06/10/2025 06:47

Pleased this is getting publicity. Watson is a menace. The police forces involved are a disgrace.

ThatAgileCoralBird · 06/10/2025 07:13

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DrBlackbird · 06/10/2025 08:31

The Times are being a bit of a coward. Miller was also accused by Watson of misgendering in an article he had written about his ordeal with her for The Critic magazine.

PruthePrune · 06/10/2025 08:40

Yet again we see an example of police pandering to TRAs. I can't understand why.

InterrobangsArePureBias · 06/10/2025 08:48

Maybe it would be interesting to know how many Police Advisory Groups are chaired by transgender people or TRAs.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 06/10/2025 08:50

ObvIously the police should really deal with Watson but I do think this is a downside to social media. In the 80s this guy would be in a pub whinging to anyone who would listen and his circle of impact would be a dozen or so folk. Stick him online and that impact is massively amplified.

FaithHopeCarnage · 06/10/2025 08:51

I think there was a previous article about Watson (Daily Mail?). It’s good that light is finally being shone on this - it’s been going on for years without seemingly any mainstream notice. Hopefully momentum is being gained. The situation is ludicrous.

Igmum · 06/10/2025 09:01

Thanks Otter and well done the Times.

But could some journalist please please take an up-to-date photo of Watson with no filters? All we get is the same old ‘sexy’ photoshoot from 20 years back. I frankly doubt whether he looks like that and would like to see the unfiltered version given some publicity. Also, Is there any action the Police can take against a clearly vexatious complainant?

OuterSpaceCadet · 06/10/2025 09:15

PruthePrune · 06/10/2025 08:40

Yet again we see an example of police pandering to TRAs. I can't understand why.

Is it just as simple as the police having a (proven) institutional misogyny problem? One reason trans ideology climbed so far so fast is that it is essentially a men's rights movement so it was very easy for organisations to incorporate into policies without troubling the status quo.

They probably either empathise with him because they feel similarly to him, or they feel sorry for him because they buy the idea it's shameful to turn into a woman. Misogynist either way.

MarieDeGournay · 06/10/2025 10:21

Tiredofwhataboutery · 06/10/2025 08:50

ObvIously the police should really deal with Watson but I do think this is a downside to social media. In the 80s this guy would be in a pub whinging to anyone who would listen and his circle of impact would be a dozen or so folk. Stick him online and that impact is massively amplified.

This is a good point - 'there have always been transgender people' - changing the terminology, there have always been men who presented as 'feminine' and women who presented as 'masculine' [using gender stereot ype shorthand there!].
I asked some older relatives about this a few years ago, and they could remember from their childhood a man down the street who wore make-up and used a woman's name, and elsewhere a woman who only wore men's clothes, swore like a trooper, and drank pints with the lads in the pub.
It was clear that they were tolerated, nobody did them any harm - but they were regarded with a combination of amusement and pity.

The idea that a movement comprising a very small number of similar people could alter social, political and cultural life to the extent the trans movement has is astonishing, and as Tiredofwhataboutery says, would it have been possible without the megaphone of social media?

Domesticatednottamed · 06/10/2025 10:33

Igmum · 06/10/2025 09:01

Thanks Otter and well done the Times.

But could some journalist please please take an up-to-date photo of Watson with no filters? All we get is the same old ‘sexy’ photoshoot from 20 years back. I frankly doubt whether he looks like that and would like to see the unfiltered version given some publicity. Also, Is there any action the Police can take against a clearly vexatious complainant?

From what I can gather from poking about on nitter for a good while there aren't any verified up to date photos of him.
I saw a screen shot from outside the court during Glinner's case that said it was thought to be him, short brown hair, and of course wearing a mask, but it didn't seem to go anywhere and I cannot remember who posted it.

KnottyAuty · 06/10/2025 10:43

Domesticatednottamed · 06/10/2025 10:33

From what I can gather from poking about on nitter for a good while there aren't any verified up to date photos of him.
I saw a screen shot from outside the court during Glinner's case that said it was thought to be him, short brown hair, and of course wearing a mask, but it didn't seem to go anywhere and I cannot remember who posted it.

Surprising that Watson’s victims don’t club together for a private detective to find his current address and photo. Do the police’s job for them but at least they would then have to take action. Now that they all know if each other they should join forces

Rhaidimiddim · 06/10/2025 10:48

Igmum · 06/10/2025 09:01

Thanks Otter and well done the Times.

But could some journalist please please take an up-to-date photo of Watson with no filters? All we get is the same old ‘sexy’ photoshoot from 20 years back. I frankly doubt whether he looks like that and would like to see the unfiltered version given some publicity. Also, Is there any action the Police can take against a clearly vexatious complainant?

It seems to be the point of the article - that he is clearly a vexatious complainant, but the police won't deal with him as such; that, for some reason, they're on his side.

SidewaysOtter · 06/10/2025 11:31

MarieDeGournay · 06/10/2025 10:21

This is a good point - 'there have always been transgender people' - changing the terminology, there have always been men who presented as 'feminine' and women who presented as 'masculine' [using gender stereot ype shorthand there!].
I asked some older relatives about this a few years ago, and they could remember from their childhood a man down the street who wore make-up and used a woman's name, and elsewhere a woman who only wore men's clothes, swore like a trooper, and drank pints with the lads in the pub.
It was clear that they were tolerated, nobody did them any harm - but they were regarded with a combination of amusement and pity.

The idea that a movement comprising a very small number of similar people could alter social, political and cultural life to the extent the trans movement has is astonishing, and as Tiredofwhataboutery says, would it have been possible without the megaphone of social media?

I think there's also the issue that in recent decades we've looked back on the fight for race/sex/gay equality and wondered why the hell those rights took so long to obtain and why it was such a hard fight. So when a new 'fight' was presented - that of trans rights - everyone fell over themselves to show that things had changed.

Then there is the rise of identity politics (where supporting trans rights was a 'good' way of showing your enlightened progressiveness) generally AND the advent of social media. In addition, there have been previous attempts by a certain demographic to get their unpleasant proclivities legalised and supported in the name of liberalisation (most recently PIE in the 1970s) and the current 'rights' push seems to include all that, although I'm not sure whether that's what drives it or it's just hanging on the coat tails. So that's the mix that's got us here.

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CassOle · 06/10/2025 12:40

Domesticatednottamed · 06/10/2025 10:33

From what I can gather from poking about on nitter for a good while there aren't any verified up to date photos of him.
I saw a screen shot from outside the court during Glinner's case that said it was thought to be him, short brown hair, and of course wearing a mask, but it didn't seem to go anywhere and I cannot remember who posted it.

It was Wings, screenshot attached.

Lynsay Watson "accused of trolling ex-police officers and barrister"
AMansAManForAllThat · 06/10/2025 12:48

Irritatingly, the article refers to Glinner’s bad joke about punching a man in the nuts, without clarifying it was a suggestion to women. The phrasing makes it sound as though he was joking that he would punch someone- altogether less amusing.

CarefulN0w · 06/10/2025 15:04

so you can judge a man by the company he keeps?

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