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Dumbo12 · 21/09/2025 17:48

https://nordicmodelnow.org/2025/09/20/how-long-before-uk-jobcentres-move-from-encouraging-unemployed-women-into-onlyfans-to-mandating-it/#print?share=print&nb=1
Copied from x.
I am reaching full despair for the treatment of women and girls in the UK.
I have had the privilege of working with women who have been prostituted and the idea that this is being pushed as a way out of unemployment makes me feel sick.

How long before UK Jobcentres move from encouraging unemployed women into OnlyFans to mandating it? | Nordic Model Now!

UK job centres are encouraging OnlyFans as self-employment for unemployed women, while stories emerge of male job coaches seeking free access to their ‘content’.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/2025/09/20/how-long-before-uk-jobcentres-move-from-encouraging-unemployed-women-into-onlyfans-to-mandating-it/

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Dragonasaurus · 21/09/2025 18:32

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Dumbo12 · 21/09/2025 18:38

Dragonasaurus · 21/09/2025 18:32

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They are, I must have missed the other bit to quote, sorry 😞
Here it is
How long before UK Jobcentres move from encouraging unemployed women into OnlyFans to mandating it?’

This disturbing new post explains how UK job centres are already encouraging OnlyFans as self-employment for unemployed women, while stories emerge of male job coaches seeking free access to their ‘content’.

“… The first time I heard OnlyFans mentioned in my capacity as a Work Coach was when a colleague, who clearly thought he was doing the decent thing, declared on the office floor, which from 9-5pm is a public space, that he could not continue to work with a particular claimant because he knew her from OnlyFans. I believe this is the shape of things to come.

The second time was a few months later, during a three-day online training session on how to deliver self-employment guidance to claimants running their own businesses. Inexplicably, the (middle-aged, female) trainer highlighted training scenarios using OnlyFans, rather than, say, a book-keeping or catering business, and this seemed to unleash a steady stream of puerile comments from participants throughout the training that went entirely unchallenged by the facilitators.

Additionally, colleagues relayed experiences of OnlyFans content creators offering Work Coaches free access to sexualised content and one instance of a Work Coach contacting a claimant on OnlyFans after obtaining their details through an appointment at the Jobcentre. It is a sackable offence for Work Coaches to use information gleaned from confidential databases for personal use, although this Work Coach remains in post.

During this training session, one of the facilitators alluded to the fact she’d been in trouble for encouraging OnlyFans engagement, while her co-facilitator confirmed that the DWP regards OnlyFans as a legitimate source of self-employed income that can and should be taxed…”

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RaininSummer · 21/09/2025 18:53

But I don't think this is even true. I have never been asked to encourage this as a work coach and never would. I even talked one young woman out of cam girl work.

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 19:10

It doesnt have to be encouraged as such. All that needs to happen is that women be made to feel that there is no other choice.

I was on New Deal in 2000 A bout of workfare then they were about to send me on a second bout of workfare when i found a night job in a sex chatline office. When i went to sign off the cheeky fuckers at Reed had the nerve to tell me they could find me better when the previous time they were going to send me to a soup factory for three months to work for my JSA. Took them THREE HOURS to get the paperwork together so i could sign off. (they clearly hadnt been too careful with it as they obviously assumed i was unemployable. THEN after i started at the office (working nights) apparently someone from Reed rocked up at the office during the DAY to ask questions. My then boss sent them away with a flea in their ear. i was fuming They could have lost me the job Which was probably their modus operandi because back then they got paid when ppl were on their books. They were obviously too bone idle to actually come during my shift.
I didnt put on the signing off form what the job was.

This was a long time ago as i was in my late twenties then and am in my early fifties now.

RaininSummer · 21/09/2025 19:35

Honestly not sure what you are talking about. What has Reed got to do with the job centre?

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 19:53

RaininSummer · 21/09/2025 19:35

Honestly not sure what you are talking about. What has Reed got to do with the job centre?

They were running Labours New Deal for the unemployed from the late nineties to the two thousands so they were based inside the JC and working on behalf of the JC It was in three age groups the eighteen to twenty fives the over twenty fives and the over fifties. My post does clearly say when this was.

RaininSummer · 21/09/2025 20:44

Well exactly. This thing with Reed seems to have happened decades ago. Not sure of it's relevance to your assertion about Only Fans.

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 21:00

RaininSummer · 21/09/2025 20:44

Well exactly. This thing with Reed seems to have happened decades ago. Not sure of it's relevance to your assertion about Only Fans.

Im saying women feeling like there isnt much choice is nothing new thats all. Must admit it worked out ok for me though I was treated much better there than in any workFARE placement and i was actually paid. Women being told their experiences arent relevant aint nothin new either

Dumbo12 · 21/09/2025 22:33

The Nordic model now site appears quote reliable, unless posters have evidence to the contrary?
Whistle blowers, like the one disclosing the training session are often disbelieved, it is so much more comfortable to believe that they are telling lies than that the horrors are actually happening.

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IwantToRetire · 22/09/2025 01:39

Very late at night so cant find link now, but some years ago when there was a suggestion the women claiming unemployment benefit (as it was called then) were disturbed to see jobs advertising doing telephone sex work.

And also at that time there were stories that in Germany unemployed women who refused to work in a brother would have their benefits cut.

And in fact it was the union of the staff in the job centres who campaigned against this.

So wonder if this is happening now, whether whichever union it is, could be encouraged to do the same. If not then they are effectively becoming pimps.

re. Reed - yes I remember yet another of Blair's right wing private business is better that state business and Reed getting the contract for job centres. But what was even more catastrophic was this meant they also dealt with housing benefit. They were totally incompetent, and claims were weeks behind. And in the borough where I lived at least one women was forced into a sex for rent situation. And no one, including the majority Labour Party in the council seemed disturbed.

I had totally forgotten about it until reading this thread.

And it has made me feel the rage I felt then on hearing about this. And sadly the helplessness.

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FlippinFumin · 22/09/2025 07:32

What was the University that during Freshers Week had a stall telling students sex work is work and a good way to earn money during your studies?
Women have been 'encouraged' to earn a pittance, pin money, prostituting themselves in some way since the dawn of time. The fact this also keeps the patriarchy happy is no coincidence.
I fully believe Only Fans is being suggested to get women and girls off benefits.

JenniferBooth · 22/09/2025 13:58

IwantToRetire · 22/09/2025 01:39

Very late at night so cant find link now, but some years ago when there was a suggestion the women claiming unemployment benefit (as it was called then) were disturbed to see jobs advertising doing telephone sex work.

And also at that time there were stories that in Germany unemployed women who refused to work in a brother would have their benefits cut.

And in fact it was the union of the staff in the job centres who campaigned against this.

So wonder if this is happening now, whether whichever union it is, could be encouraged to do the same. If not then they are effectively becoming pimps.

re. Reed - yes I remember yet another of Blair's right wing private business is better that state business and Reed getting the contract for job centres. But what was even more catastrophic was this meant they also dealt with housing benefit. They were totally incompetent, and claims were weeks behind. And in the borough where I lived at least one women was forced into a sex for rent situation. And no one, including the majority Labour Party in the council seemed disturbed.

I had totally forgotten about it until reading this thread.

And it has made me feel the rage I felt then on hearing about this. And sadly the helplessness.

Angry Sad

Wow I didnt know they were also responsible for HB I was already on it when i got transferred to Reed so i didnt know this. Im not surprised it was a mess though As i said it actually took hours to sign off because they lost my paperwork. I do get the impression from the Reed ads we were bombarded with on TV several years back that they would like people to forget they ever had this contract. I remember the stuff about the brothels in Germany because of the threads on here.

IwantToRetire · 22/09/2025 18:03

I found a link, didn't realise it was 15 years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10831614

I wonder if this still applies.

Any point lobbying the Labour Party?

I suspect that given the ban was 15 years ago there are now younger people working a job centres who through social media etc., think it is normal for women to turn to sex work when no other job is available

BBC News

Ads for sex industry workers banned from job centres

Advertising sex industry jobs such as strippers and lap dancers has been banned in job centres, the government announces.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10831614

IwantToRetire · 22/09/2025 18:05

IwantToRetire · 22/09/2025 18:03

I found a link, didn't realise it was 15 years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10831614

I wonder if this still applies.

Any point lobbying the Labour Party?

I suspect that given the ban was 15 years ago there are now younger people working a job centres who through social media etc., think it is normal for women to turn to sex work when no other job is available

If anyone has any contact with Nordic Model now, or any other group campaigning on this, please let them know about the ban even if it ws 15 years ago.

So unless one of the Govenrments since then has reversed this, this is the rule.

And would love to see Starmer justifying reversing it.

bestcatlife · 22/09/2025 18:12

No one wants to be a work coach these days.. it's a far cry from what it was 15-20 years ago. The role attracts psychopaths in my opinion.

Coatsoff42 · 22/09/2025 20:04

I wonder what schools would say about girls doing their school work experience on Onlyfans or giving men blow jobs for cash?

If prostitution is work why don’t school children go into brothels for a week to see if they like it?

Dumbo12 · 22/09/2025 20:10

Coatsoff42 · 22/09/2025 20:04

I wonder what schools would say about girls doing their school work experience on Onlyfans or giving men blow jobs for cash?

If prostitution is work why don’t school children go into brothels for a week to see if they like it?

Absolutely and why don't mp's et al set their daughters off on that "career " path

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Coatsoff42 · 22/09/2025 20:13

Dumbo12 · 22/09/2025 20:10

Absolutely and why don't mp's et al set their daughters off on that "career " path

Yes, why don’t you see kier starmer watching women give blow jobs on an industrial estate as part of a photo op for an election?

NotMyNigelFarage · 22/09/2025 20:28

It's a load of (wildly) speculative bollocks. The supposition that 'Surely it is the case that if the performance of sex acts on OnlyFans becomes a legitimate self-employment venture, it is only a matter of time before this type of engagement is considered fair game for other job seekers' is a pretty big reach IMO.

NotMyNigelFarage · 22/09/2025 20:32

Although that said American men do have to sign up to the draft to get state benefits. It's pretty crazy that men in the world's richest country have to literally sign their life away with the theoretical possibility of having to fight to the death if required.

Dumbo12 · 22/09/2025 20:54

@NotMyNigelFarage , did you read the article? Did you read the report of the training?

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NotMyNigelFarage · 23/09/2025 09:32

Dumbo12 · 22/09/2025 20:54

@NotMyNigelFarage , did you read the article? Did you read the report of the training?

The bit where the trainer said she'd been reprimanded for talking about OF or where they said it was a legitimate taxable business (which you'd expect with it being legal?)

Either way, the job centre won't be forcing women into sex work anytime soon. It's just a ridiculous claim to justify more whinging. I think it's more likely we'll see a military draft and I don't think that's likely.

Although it's interesting that it seems to be female trainers pushing it?

NotMyNigelFarage · 23/09/2025 09:35

In the examples given it seems to be the female work coaches pushing it and the only one to object being male.

Dumbo12 · 23/09/2025 09:44

NotMyNigelFarage · 23/09/2025 09:32

The bit where the trainer said she'd been reprimanded for talking about OF or where they said it was a legitimate taxable business (which you'd expect with it being legal?)

Either way, the job centre won't be forcing women into sex work anytime soon. It's just a ridiculous claim to justify more whinging. I think it's more likely we'll see a military draft and I don't think that's likely.

Although it's interesting that it seems to be female trainers pushing it?

Do you recognise your own contradictions in your post? Your summary is, it is not real, but it's women who are doing the thing that isn't real.

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