BBC is reporting on women dying in childbirth in Afghanistan

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I remember saying that this would happen. No training for female doctors and midwives, no antenatal care, no help in childbirth. It is absolutely barbaric.
Last week we were reading about women being left to die in the rubble after the earthquake because the male rescuers wouldn't touch them.
Just horrific.

https://lindanorgrovefoundation.org/

Why do they want women to die in childbirth? Who do they think is going to look after the babies (including the male ones!)

There is no evidence they are able to function in Afghanistan any more than local women can.

And if you saw the news today about the British couple who have now been released, they were arrested / detained because one part of their service was to support women.

Of course helping women who have had, been able, to flee Afghanistan is great.

But in terms of the OP no funding seems to be reaching groups in Afghanistan, and the concept of support, training online, now cant work because the Taliban have cut internet connections.

So are you saying it's not worth donating to charities that are trying to help?

I was going to try to donate to them via my work GAYE but trying to change the charities has been an impossible task so I'd given up today. But from what you are saying it might not be worth it anyway.

No I was saying in the context of getting aid, support to women in Afghanistan.

From their web site it is clear they are support Afghan women in this country.

But maybe just email them.

Their web site says they are sending money to a group training women to become midwives, which according to news media is no longer allowed by the Taliban.

Maybe this is still going on underground.

So email them, and if you find out lets us know.

That we shouldn't let the MSM be the only source of information.

Sorry forgot to add https://lindanorgrovefoundation.org/contact-us/

“Why don’t they care about the babies left motherless, including the male babies?”
Because they don’t care. Everything is Allah’s will.
This is such an awful situation and will lead to unrest, women and children paying a terrible price for this insanity. I don’t think there is anything that can be done as the Taliban have now cut off wi-fi across the whole country (there is still limited dial-up internet, but there is no privacy using dial-up).

Honestly this is why I'm asking. Because I have been trying to find charities to donate to who can support women on the ground, maybe change things or at least get women out. It's so hard to tell from websites etc who can do something concrete - and probably the groups who can, if indeed anyone can, are not going to publicise it.

So really I'm wondering if there's any charities who are maybe not directly active but able to support groups who are.

I agree, its really difficult to know.

News stories imply that if anything it has got worse lately. That there were some women working together quietly, but that now they too have been shut down.

But then it could be the media just making sweeping statements.

Or the possibility that there are still some women's networks and groups, that in fact to keep themselves safe they dont publicise who they are, and it is all word of mouth.

Just come back to this because I received the Linda Norgrove newsletter today and they said they are still doing work despite the restrictions. I have made my Christmas charity donation to them this year.

Newsletter is here: https://lindanorgrovefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/LNF-Winter-Newsletter-2025.pdf

Taliban ban on Afghan women working for UN agencies surpasses 100 days

More than 100 days have passed since the Taliban barred Afghan women from entering United Nations offices in Afghanistan, the UN human rights office said, warning that the restriction harms both humanitarian operations and the country’s future.

https://amu.tv/216510/

I just dont know what to say anymore.

Meanwhile on the thread we are discussing the BMJ argument in favour of FGM. Decolonisation.

At least some of these deaths will be down to FGM which will make natural childbirth more complicated.

In fact there are no records according to World Bank data of FGM in Afgahanistan. FGM is not a specifically Muslim practice.

However yes the mortality rate for women in Afghanistan is terrible, and likely to get worse as female doctors and midwives have been banned, and many women are mal nourished.

And despite those who like to swipe at the UN they are one of the largest providers of health care and food globally.

In another article I haven't posted they were discussing the impact of Trumps near total cancelation of health aid, plus the UK stopping its programmes, both of which will directly impact women subject to FGM.

Not made an better by the fact that fundamentalist US Christian organisers are planning to offer support insteand. But of course linked to strict Christian "values". ie no contraception or abortion.

Women as usual left to the mercy of self important men who think their beliefs should be imposed on women.

Truly evil. Do other Muslim nations have the same revulsion at what these men are doing to their Muslim sisters? Why is this a western problem to solve? I thought Islam was supposed to be enlightened and protective of women?

I wish I could support the BBC whole-heartedly. But this is the kind of nonsense that's dragging it down. It used to be independent, honest, impartial and therefore trusted worldwide. Now, blaming a US politician they don't like for the deaths of women under a theocracy that treats them worse than animals? I'm embarrassed for the BBC.

Surely it is both. These things are both actively worsening conditions for women

So Taliban deny women basic rights including health care and the right to speak to other women, Trump stops funding the Taliban, and BBC blames Trump for women dying?

But… but… but… Taliban culture is equal to ours isn’t it?

They get the Darwin Award, eventually becoming a country of old men sat around shaking their heads wondering what happened.

Given the taliban’s track record, I doubt they would permit abortion or contraception anyway. Let the Christian fundamentalists offer their help and organisations like planned parenthood can offer their help too.

I wasn't talking about Afghanistan except about FGM.

It was a comment that given Trump's actions and now the UK women in a number of countries are going to be severly worse off.

And just sweepingly ignoring the restrictions that fundamentalist christian, just like fundamentalist muslims having control of women's health as something they should just live with is grotesque.

This nonchalant attitude towards other women is just horrible.

And its not as though both the US and the UK cant find money for arms.

As usual. Money needs to be saved? Lets just break out promises to women.

Amaing how quickly the daily callousness of Trump is now become a norm for others.

There is actually now evidence that the practice is being observed in parts of the world that never did this before.

http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/countries/

This is thought to be the transmission of jihadist/ salafist ideas from the African regions that assorted fighters are bringing with them

If all the women were killed/rescued/resettled what would the men have to live for? Barbarians.

It struck me that the reporter in Afghanistan must have had official permission. She was breaking the laws on dress, speaking, and broadcasting. I think they've imposed internal travel restrictions as well so, as she probably doesn't live in one of those villages, would have needed a pass.

It's not impossible the BBC got the permits on condition that the piece was about the effects of USAID withdrawal.

The BBC will never condemn any form of Islam. Instead they will look for a way to spin things to lay the blame elsewhere. It’s embarrassing that our national broadcaster has lost the ability to be impartial.
These poor women are suffering as a direct result of their country’s regime. It’s desperately sad.