Convicted thug who attacked exes slammed for "masquerading as women's saviour" at asylum protests

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"In his 'Bring the Noise' podcast, he likes to travel around various protests and interview people including women discussing how asylum seekers have made them feel unsafe amongst other things.

"We ask anyone who organises these protests, are they happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with a convicted abuser of women? Are you able to say you truly believe in protecting women and girls?"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/convicted-thug-who-attacked-exes-35893397

This is what has been happening at these demos. Women, no doubt genuinely worried about sexual violence, have been pushed to the front to help violent men, just as likely to be perpetrators of VAWG, pretend they are one of the "good guys".

Feel really sad for the women who have been taken in by them.

There are a lot of scum involved in these protests. But that doesn’t relate to all the women involved.

Hitler was a vegetarian. That doesn’t make Paul McCartney a Nazi.

Nobody is saying anything about the women, other than they are being exploited / providing cover for violent misogynistic men.

Just like the tame feminist who turned up to front a march against racism organised by the SWP whose own member are known to be abusers of women.

What would be great if out of these demos, women started to organise autonomously and demonstrated in city centres and residential areas saying they wanted to defend their daughters who are far more likely to be sexually assaulted by a friend, neighbour or family member.

I think you’re misunderstanding what’s being said here.

If they properly thought about it, none of the blokes at that "march" really care about VAWAG. They just don't like "foreigners" and they're dressing it all up as a caring crusade. It isn't even as simple as not liking black or brown people, Yaxley Lennon and Farage campaigned for Brexit, so they don't like white foreigners either.
Theres nothing more to them than the hooligans who used to ruin football matches, it this time they have a larger reach thanks to SM.

Its a thing these days.

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Some men like aggro. They like it at home, and they'll take it to the streets if the opportunity arises, whether against rival football fans or some other gathering.

You only have to look at the TV footage of violent demonstrations anywhere in the world- it's overwhelmingly young males running around throwing things at whoever is in front of them, often but not exclusively the police.

Different contexts, different targets, same violence.

Yup

but it still needs to be OK to talk about the impacts of things like large groups of people from completely different cultures being transplanted to communities who frankly often have their own struggles without getting accused of racism

when people aren’t allowed to talk about things without getting shouted down or shamed is when people like Tommy Robinson start to thrive

That 'but' is doing a lot of heavy lifting!

yeah, agreed. I tend not to comment on this stuff as I'm not clear in my own mind on my views.

frankly i've got no time for this weekend's marchers. Britain is one of the best countries in the world to live in, stable, prosperous, offers opportunities. Those of us born here are very lucky indeed. I agree that we should share our good fortune. quite aside from anything else, without immigration we're a bit screwed in terms of workforce. but I have travelled in arab countries and am aware of how women are routinely treated in public there. i've got no desire for that to become in any way normal here.

the only thing i'm sure of is calling people who are trying to get clarity on their views racists closes down discussion and encourages extremism

You can't have it both ways, you can't criticise the protests because one person is a convicted criminal and then support the migrants in the hotels when one or two of them are convicted criminals.

There are protests that are organised solely by women, due to their experiences in the local area, but what gets publicity are the hooligans who hijack the events.

And a common theme is that when they go to the police, the police simply refuse to deal with the matter because of who is responsible. It has to escalate to a certain level before the police get involved.

Of course they care about VAWG. If anyone is going to be committing violence against their women and girls, it's going to be them!

I'm being facetious but I am not joking. The apparent contradition between anger at the threat to women and children and many of these men having convictions for VAWG themselves goes away when you realise they see British women as their resource - as property/territory.

Then it's right in line with the rest of their position, that the immigrant "they" are taking/messing the things that are supposed to belong to the British (male) "us".

indeed

And also - I feel very strongly on this - if the alternative to Tommy Robinson is Martin Smith and his chums, that's a very bad situation for women. The high profile women who turned on on the counter demo yesterday organised by Martin Smith's mates don't seem to realise this, or they do and they don't care.

I suppose one way of looking at it is, with the number of MI5 assets on both sides, extremism and counter-extremism in the UK is mostly a kabuki theatre orchestrated by the state.