GUM clinic asked for gender.....

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Had reason to visit a GUM clinic today, the booking in form asked for my gender, nothing about sex, just gender.
So I did what I always do when asked such stupid questions and chose the 'prefer not to disclose' option and handed back in to reception.
The poor woman then asked me if I meant to select that option.
It wasnt the time or the place to announce my disbelief in gender, or gender identity, so just said quite firmly "yeah".
I'm quite obviously a woman, with problems unique to the female sex.
Why on earth isn't that more relevant than my gender at a sex clinic of all places?

Bizarre. Whatever your gender, star sign or other fantasies, it’s your body that needs treatment, and your sex is likely to be relevant.

I feel worried when people I rely on for physical healthcare don’t seem to understand biology.

I had a similar experience when I went to a sexual health and contraception clinic (which was run by virgin health which was very amusing). I was 6 weeks post partum and there for a new IUD. This was before most places had started asking if your gender is was the same as "your sex assigned at birth" but it's still a ludicrous question as it changes the type of examination you need as well as different chaperone requirements

Because of bullshit like this.

It's 'humiliating' to acknowledge your sex, whilst simultaneously being open on bluesky about the fact you are trans.

It makes no sense.

Woman on desk is pressuring you to comment on your gender identity against your will, isn't that terrible bigotry in gender theory?

Good luck to anyone trying to insert a coil in a man who identifies as female then! And bad luck to the man!

Oh my! You've made decide to say 'sagittarius' next time I'm asked.

I know I'm not a Sagittarius but hey that'll be an interesting conversation too.
Tee hee.

Good grief. Does that foolish person honestly not understand why a triage system needs to know medically relevant information even when it’s clearly explained below? Do they want to earn a Darwin Award?

Maybe so they could use correct pronouns & be polite?

They just need to ask for sex (clinically relevant, I’m sure anyone sane agrees?) and how you want to be referred to. That’s polite to everyone without getting into details of personal data which they don’t need to collect for their purpose.

I'd prefer they know if I needed a male or female nurse first, and accurate tools relevant to my sex specific anatomy

That's a bit more important than referring to someone as him or her behind their back isn't it.

Look sure they could ask differently like 'would you like to be referred to a she or he or they' but it's the same thing & they have an obligation to treat people with dignity & respect not just treat them.

Its not really polite to use 3rd party pronouns at someone though is it?

I remember the standard response to such rude behaviour being "Who is she? The cat's mother?"

No, they should just ask how you would like to be referred to. This is properly inclusive; it allows anyone who prefers pronouns not congruent with their sex to say so, but it also allows for any other naming preference people have. For instance, MiL went all her life by her middle name but hospitals she was admitted to seemed unable to cope with this and persistently used her first name which she’d always hated. Otoh my late DM disliked anyone she didn’t know well calling her by her given name; fortunately she had her heart op in a hospital where they had the courtesy to ask and so called her Mrs XX.

surely you don’t think only the dignity of people with ‘preferred pronouns’ matter?

One of my elderly neighbours who we in our street regularly all socialise with & have known for years, expects us all to still refer to him as 'Mr' not by his first name. If that's his preference big deal.

It's really just first world problems & frankly demented to agonise over such minor issues.

Xpost - good, then you agree they should just ask what people would like to be referred to as. The ‘gender’ question doesnt do this broadly enough.

'Nick' names are problematic in medical/hospital settings because they have to constantly check whether its 'you' before they give out meds or perform surgery so I can understand the confusion using different names.

Sex is relevant in healthcare where hurt feelings cannot kill you a misdiagnosis can

You are just reinforcing my point, it is polite to use names. You call your neighbour Mr Whatever, you don't call him "he" to his face or in his presence.

Is is rude to refer to someone as he or she in their presence, you use their name. So how is using pronouns, whether correct or not, being polite?

Yes; DMiL could cope with being called by the wrong name when she was compos mentis even if she didn’t like it, but in her last years she was sometimes confused and it really didn’t help.

Doctors/nurses reports might be written that way tho. As in 'Patient was administered X meds & 'he' reported symptoms of Y'.

Research shows patient health outcomes are influenced by their comfort levels in hospitals. Its why if a patient asks for a female/Chinese/Spanish/Black doctor its a better health outcome. A lot like why its best that if a female feels uncomfortable sharing a room with a trans women they shouldn't have to.

As far as 'hurt feelings' go, whatever happened to the good ol British 'Stiff upper Lip'? To think after all the Brits put up with & 'carried on & kept calm' many have resorted to a mob mentality of screeching hysterical banshees over pronouns of all things.

It's the Gum clinic. They literally need to know which specialist 'genital inspector' you need to be allocated to and seen by!

Maybe we should avoid the sad times this creates and just sack all the 'genital inspectors' to avoid offending dickheads?

Seems reasonable and the only trans friendly option. It's not like the gynaecologist is going to be able to help much with lady penis issues, so we should make them all redundant if they aren't prepared to act as a trans affirmation prop. Bigots. If these precious flowers are so sensitive about even admitting their sex, then the idea of being asked to flop their friend out is possibly going to give them PTSD. Though that's a valid grifting opportunity right there.

More generally they need to know if your stats and doseages need to be within the male range or the female range and they need to know whether to look for male symptoms or female systems because certain conditions present differently if you have XX chromosomes or XY chromosomes. Finally there's the sticky issue of female only conditions (pregnancy or ovarian cancer for example) or (prostate cancer).

They need to know not play a game of guess who which wastes precious time. Someone looking at the data for paperwork might not have the benefit of seeing the person concerned (when it's usually fairly fucking obvious) - eg when doing bloods or working out doseages.

Pronouns are fucking irrelevant for the purposes of being the person analysis results or calculating your prescription as you might not even be patient facing.

"Oh well want to be treated with dignity, and literally be given treatment for the wrong sex whilst demanding equal standards of care" is not bloody possible.

Everything offends and humiliates these dickheads who are this extreme. Yesterday amused me when a group sat in the court where the barristers sit and had to be moved and they screeched about how humiliating it was. Everything is 'humiliating'. It ceases to have any meaning and ultimately it's got fuck all to do with being sensitive and discrimination and everything to do with being a gigantic obnoxious knobhead. Which correct pronoun usage wouldn't fix anyway.

Sadly there is no medical cure for that level of stupidity.

Comfort levels are irrelevant to making a diagnosis of prostate cancer or identifying a pregnancy or dispensing your prescription or working out just how badly your kidneys are working.

Sad times.

Biology is transphobic.

Take mother nature to court. She deserves it.

I remember reading about that female patient who did not disclose to the hospital that they were female and all documentation referred to them being male. Didn’t it take something like three weeks inpatient care for the team to work out that the patient was female and the results for all the tests had been interpreted in the male range?

Meaning that she almost died because she didn’t once mention to anyone that she was female despite all the documentation.

Then there was the female patient would lost their baby because the medical team had documentation saying the patient was male. And no one, including the patient, knew that the patient was in the late stage of pregnancy.

Lying about your sex class is incongruent to receiving a high standard of medical care.

“As far as 'hurt feelings' go, whatever happened to the good ol British 'Stiff upper Lip'? To think after all the Brits put up with & 'carried on & kept calm' many have resorted to a mob mentality of screeching hysterical banshees over pronouns of all things.”

It is remarkable to see people claiming to be advocating for inclusivity and tolerance post this kind of post. Culturally insensitive and misogynistic. This really is ‘shut the fuck up you stupid British women’.