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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
PermanentTemporary · 08/09/2025 10:47

Yes it is incredibly frustrating and disorientating to know that your views would get you ostracised from every academic common room, pub restaurant and canteen in the country, plus putting you on a performance improvement plan or gardening leave at work, when if you overhear the non-ostracised talking to each other, they believe exactly the same things as you do, but are willing to make a contradictory statement. Like the many vicars who remain in their jobs despite losing their faith years ago, as long as they are prepared to lead their congregation in the Nicene Creed.

worrisomeasset · 08/09/2025 10:49

Gender identity ideology has been the modern arts world’s McCarthyism, and all Gladwell’s done is reveal himself as a man who’d have named names, but felt a bit uncomfortable about it afterwards.

No-one does put-downs quite as well as JKR.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1963927077213602131

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1963927077213602131

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2025 22:34

Ah we've had Gladwell.

I'm not going to raise you with this gem

Dr. Gordon Guyatt revolutionized modern medicine. As a professor at McMaster University, he coined the term "evidence-based medicine" in 1991, created the hierarchy of evidence that every medical student learns, and wrote the User's Guide to the Medical Literature that taught physicians worldwide how to critically evaluate research. For 48 years, he's been the gold standard for rigorous scientific thinking in healthcare.

https://x.com/_CryMiaRiver/status/1965155081038561553?t=xxzxyDCvHxseyeLDIWKXbQ&s=19

Mia Hughes AT _crymiariver
Me: You signed a statement calling “gender affirming care” for youth medically necessary.

Guyatt: WHAT!? That’s RIDICULOUS. I would never say that.

Me: *produces the receipt

Guyatt: Oh, I didn’t read that part. I’m a dope.

Unbelievable.

Bev Jackson AT BevJacksonAuth
Have you ever seen a more blatant example of someone lying and then squirming in embarrassment?
Guyatt’s reputation is in shreds.

https://x.com/_CryMiaRiver/status/1965155081038561553?s=19&t=xxzxyDCvHxseyeLDIWKXbQ

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2025 22:35

Mia Hughes
Today on Beyond Gender we interviewed Dr. Gordan Guyatt—the “godfather” of evidence-based medicine—who recently signed a statement calling paediatric gender medicine “medically necessary” despite knowing there is no good quality evidence that it is safe, beneficial and effective.

This particular clip is INCREDIBLE. When I asked him about it, his response was nothing short of astounding. He confessed he hadn’t bothered to read the statement he signed!

Guyatt is one of the most respected, distinguished doctors of our time, and his name carries tremendous weight. That he could so carelessly put his name to an activist talking point—one entirely unsupported by evidence—is not only bitterly ironic, but also profoundly damaging. It undermines the work of those of us fighting to counter the flood of misinformation spread by activists, WPATH, and the medical associations that have endorsed this scandal.

NeverOneBiscuit · 09/09/2025 00:01

Nah, sod him. He’s just ensuring the receipts are there for when the wheels come right off the bandwagon.

Appalonia · 09/09/2025 00:02

So he's identified that there is a real life 'tipping point ' then has he? So ironic. He won't be remembered when one day all this gets documented, apart from being a weak man who despite writing his books depicting social changes, either was so blind that he didn't see this one coming or if he did, was too cowardly to use his hugely influential position and write about it. Neither of which are great as a so called forward thinking social historian.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 09/09/2025 07:00

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2025 22:35

Mia Hughes
Today on Beyond Gender we interviewed Dr. Gordan Guyatt—the “godfather” of evidence-based medicine—who recently signed a statement calling paediatric gender medicine “medically necessary” despite knowing there is no good quality evidence that it is safe, beneficial and effective.

This particular clip is INCREDIBLE. When I asked him about it, his response was nothing short of astounding. He confessed he hadn’t bothered to read the statement he signed!

Guyatt is one of the most respected, distinguished doctors of our time, and his name carries tremendous weight. That he could so carelessly put his name to an activist talking point—one entirely unsupported by evidence—is not only bitterly ironic, but also profoundly damaging. It undermines the work of those of us fighting to counter the flood of misinformation spread by activists, WPATH, and the medical associations that have endorsed this scandal.

Thanks Red, that's interesting. So does that mean that Jesse Singal's articles don't reflect Guyatt's views at all, Guyatt just signed something he didn't believe y not reading it?
Either way, it's a good thing if Guyatt is disavowing his previous statement, as discussed here
Page 2 | Jesse Singal on the furore over Systematic Reviews of Gender Medicine | Mumsnet

Page 2 | Jesse Singal on the furore over Systematic Reviews of Gender Medicine | Mumsnet

Let me know if there's already a thread on this, I can't see one. Jesse Singal has a very good two part Substack on the fiasco at McMaster. SEGM fund...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5400689-jesse-singal-on-the-furore-over-systematic-reviews-of-gender-medicine?page=2&reply=146856736

PermanentTemporary · 09/09/2025 07:07

I still find it mildly reassuring that these guys are now all ‘no no of course not’ in public about the most bonkers manifestations. It’s a good thing, and tbh a good idea. Salami slice tactics.

Vogt · 09/09/2025 07:11

RoyalCorgi · 08/09/2025 10:46

The Gladwell thing is interesting in the sense that he's decided now is the point at which it's safe to speak. Because as far as I can see, in the US and Canada, the so-called "liberal" viewpoint is still completely in thrall to gender ideology. Look at Amy Hamm, for starters. So if Gladwell thinks he won't get hounded for speaking out now, perhaps that tells us something.

Victoria Smith's piece was very good. Significant that she mentions Ronson, whose stance has been breathtaking in its hypocrisy. I wonder when, if ever, he'll admit he backed the wrong horse.

I read somewhere - it might even have been something by Smith herself - that Mary Daly, in one of her books, pointed out that not a single one of the famous male Enlightenment thinkers ever wrote a word condemning the witch trials of the early modern period. That gives you pause for thought, doesn't it?

Actually Voltaire did.

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