Feminist activist sent to prison for ‘Allah is lesbian’ T-shirt - Morocco

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A feminist activist has been sent to prison for two-and-a-half years because of messages on a T-shirt she wore in a selfie posted online.

The shirt featured the word “Allah” in Arabic, followed by the words “is lesbian” in English.

Ibtissam Lachgar was charged with blasphemy and with disseminating the image online.

She was found guilty of violating part of Morocco’s criminal code that outlaws offending the monarchy or Islam, her lawyer, Naïma El Guellaf, said.

A member of Ms Lachgar’s legal team said they plan to appeal the conviction.

Article continues at https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/morocco-islam-prison-ibtissam-lachgar-b2819995.html

What appointees?

All the more reason to not knuckle down!

Current shuffle

No, that is a ‘sex realist’ position. The gender critical position is that gender is a harmful social construct that should be removed. You can only be a feminist if you are critical of gender.

Not by breaking them, no. There are processes to do this the right way.

Do what instead
People get put in prison in UK for hurty Facebook posts
We don't have free speech any more

What if the government allows no other way?

BTW, Mandela did support setting bombs, but not to harm people. Still wrong, ofc.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mandelas-freedom-fighter-days-not-part-saintly-image-flna2d11744279

Lucy Connelly was in prison bc she spoke about setting fire to hotels during a riot, broadcasting that to countless people and only taking it down when protested. It was hyperbole, but in a violent atmosphere where people dod attempt to burn the immigrants in the hotels, I agree w the decision. She should have gone to prison. But the sentence was far too long, and the Labour man who talked about cutting Tory throats should be in jail too. So should Kneecap. All this violent incitement is unacceptable.

Lucy Connelly has lost a child some years ago, which is terrible, and an element But that isn't an excuse for what she posted. It wouldn't be for a bereaved father, neither should it be for a mother. I think an overlooked element of the case is that troubled people should not be conditioned by SM to broadcast their feelings to the world, but that's how the SM companies make their money. I feel they are also culpable.

As I said
The UK doesn't have free speech

Then maybe trust that it's possible that they know more than you and that that law maybe there for reasons you don't fully understand. Too many people protest laws on such a narcissistic basis because they don't like them or feel they aren't beneficial to them as individuals when laws are often in existence for the benefit of society as a whole. If your government doesn't allow it then prey one day you wake up a resident of somewhere like Britain where we allow terrorist supporters to protest on the streets burning flags of our close allies.

Oh, and setting bombs not to harm people doesn't make sense. That is the purpose of a bomb. To harm.

Do you think blasphemy laws are beneficial?

Lots of governments banned protest : many totalitarian ones like Stalin, Mao, Islamic State & Hitler. You sound v naive thinking that a gov w no other way to change a law has people's best interests at heart. V dangerous to put such childlike trust in any gov.

What reason would make apartheid right in your mind?

What planet are you on
The police have plenty of crime to choose to investigate
Without adding a comment on Facebook to that lit .
Back in the real world,the police chase actual criminals
Or at least they should...

He set them to blow objects up when people weren't around. The suffragettes did similar.

It is nor good to set any bomb, but it's obviously incorrect to sat it HAS to be set to harm people rather than simply objects.

They should definitely do a better job of crime, they're a shitshow.

But inflammatory comments in a violent riot do need some curb sometimes, and I have explained why. Do you know what happens when riots get really out of control? People die. Our free speech laws do NOT cover incitement to violence, and in such a dangerous situation, violent comments should be curbed. But comments simply saying the migrants should be sent back should NOT be curbed. Free speech restriction needs to be tightly confined to violent incitement, as it should be.

Let's not get into a discussion of Lucy Connelly, there are tons of othe threads on that. Let's keep the focus on Ibtissam Lachgar.

Let's not get into a discussion of Lucy Connelly, there are tons of othe threads on that. Let's keep the focus on Ibtissam Lachgar.

You believe these appointees support Islamic fundamentalism?

I agree, we need to keep the distinction.

Ok
But
She said some ridiculous things
But if anyone had gone and done what she said
That would NOT of been her fault
She is not responsible for what other people do in a riot ,or any other time .
Plenty of people have written dreadful things on Facebook and not gone to prison
This was setting an example, letting us all know we do not now have free speech

Totally
However
We haven't even got free speech in the UK
So what chance did lbtissam have where she lived .
Give it ten years ,and I can see something similar happening in uk

I'm shocked too.

Though not surprised. This is why our country is in such a fucking mess in so many ways. People have been taught for decades to give up their basic humans rights in the cause of 'being kind' to others.

No. It was not simply ridiculous, don't minimise, it was inciting violence. She wrote it during a riot. There was violence going on, it was a potentially very dangerous situation. For the same reason, people involved in the 2011 riots were given much harsher sentences than they would normally have got for such crimes, to discourage rioting

Like it or not, incitement to violence may not cause violence itself, but it is a crime for a reason.

We are in polarised times, and threats of violence should be taken seriously. That Labour councillor should also be in jail, as I said.

I do agree about the free speech threat, as in the sentence was way too harsh. Glinner's court case, too.

However, we DO have free speech. I don't believe she would have been arrested if she hadn't been inciting violence. People make racist and all other kinds of uneasant comments all the time on SM still & are OK.

But the whole point is she is brave, and standing up to fight for rights. Not just knuckling under, as you keep chastising her to do (although you don't tell Connolly to do that though she was inciting violence, oddly)

No, really, he didn't, he was responsible for the deaths of dozens of innocent civilians, Nelson Mandela, was a violent, murdering terrorist. These are facts despite his cause.