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Fantastic title for an article. Tracy Edwards in The Telegraph

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RumNotRun · 24/08/2025 09:32

Tracy Edwards: Arguing with trans activists is like explaining Einstein to my dog

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/2025/08/24/tracy-edwards-trans-activists-fights-back/

The comments also seem very supportive, but how sad that the women performing in the play just didn't get it

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/08/2025 09:34

Haha she’s not wrong 😂

Cerialkiller · 24/08/2025 09:36

Any chance of a share token pweese! 🙏

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 24/08/2025 09:49

And an archive link too:

https://archive.is/Jwe8l

It’s a super article - she sounds like an amazing woman.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/08/2025 09:57

Fantastic article, thank you!

franke · 24/08/2025 10:00

It's a really good article. But I do wish people would stop perpetuating the myth that Emily Wilding Davis 'threw herself in front of the King's horse'. She didn't. She walked very calmly on to the course to try and place a suffragette scarf on the King's horse. It was possibly a terrible miscalculation which cost her her life but she didn't throw herself. Why does it matter? Because it plays into the typical trope of hysterical, irrational, over-dramatic woman.

Sorry, as you were. It's a great article and Tracy Edwards comes across really well, steadfast and unapologetic.

borntobequiet · 24/08/2025 10:12

Great article. I found the action of the cast particularly enraging, stupid young women with absolutely no idea of the reality of Tracy and her crew’s achievement or indeed reality at all. Will donate to one of her charities this week.

SausageRoll2020 · 24/08/2025 10:13

Excellent article, thank you for sharing.

littlbrowndog · 24/08/2025 10:19

Very good article

singthing · 24/08/2025 10:25

Just for posterity, it's also one of the top items on the homepage at the time of typing too...

Fantastic title for an article. Tracy Edwards in The Telegraph
sophiecygnet · 24/08/2025 10:30

Gosh! I was on the dockside when she brought Maiden into Ocean Village.
Later I helped support a young woman trying to start an Olympic campaign.
Great set of girls and women all through the sport of sailing.

turkeyboots · 24/08/2025 10:41

That's a lesson for us all. If you are ever having your life story made into a show/movie etc, insist on a contract which means you can sue the ass off anyone who pulls this type of stunt.
I sailed in my youth and considered doing the Whitbread, but ultimately I was too scared of both the challenge and being in such close confines with men for so long.

NotAtMyAge · 24/08/2025 11:07

Oliver Brown is a gold-plated star on the subject of protecting women's sports.

SerendipityJane · 24/08/2025 11:12

RumNotRun · 24/08/2025 09:32

Tracy Edwards: Arguing with trans activists is like explaining Einstein to my dog

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/2025/08/24/tracy-edwards-trans-activists-fights-back/

The comments also seem very supportive, but how sad that the women performing in the play just didn't get it

That's a really poor analogy, I'd say.

There is nothing complicated about it at all.

Women are women. Men are men.

Endit.

It's more like trying to explain basic arithmetic to Baldrick

"So you have a man and another man, making two men. Now if I add this man, how many do I have ?"

"Some women"

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 24/08/2025 11:24

So just to get this straight: the young woman who read from the piece of paper had just finished performing in the show celebrating Tracy Edwards’ achievements and was presumably paid to perform in the show? So without the extraordinary achievements of one woman, the young woman wouldn’t have had a job?

The lack of insight and awareness is perplexing not to mention hugely embarrassing.

viques · 24/08/2025 11:38

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 24/08/2025 11:24

So just to get this straight: the young woman who read from the piece of paper had just finished performing in the show celebrating Tracy Edwards’ achievements and was presumably paid to perform in the show? So without the extraordinary achievements of one woman, the young woman wouldn’t have had a job?

The lack of insight and awareness is perplexing not to mention hugely embarrassing.

Maybe it’s an actor thing. Great at speaking other peoples words for them, not always so great at thinking about your own words before they fall out of your mouth..

I expect if we think hard we can collectively find a few more examples of the genre.

(not all actors btw, but it does seem to be a bit of a professional blind spot)

flyingbuttress43 · 24/08/2025 12:00

Just finished reading this - my Sunday morning newspaper ritual - what a woman.

It gave me a rush of nostalgia for the time from the 60s to the 90s when women were pushing the boundaries, proud to be female and doing our thing, so to speak. Sometimes I feel women of my generation have been wasting our time, then up pops someone like Tracy to remind us to hang on - this too will pass, as the cliche goes.

My favourite paragraph from the article: "Grant Dalton, a bluff New Zealander and today chief executive of his country's triumphantk America's Cup team scoffed: "If those chicks beat me, I'll put a pineapple up my arse and run up Queen Street in Auckland naked." Tracy's response? "Still waiting Grant."

Tracy was a woman of that era between the 60s and the 90s.

Now we have to put up with the feeble be-kind brigade like the little actress trembling as she read out the statement betraying Tracy. Turkeys voting for Christmas. Fuck off little actress - you and everyone of that cast who supported you should be ashamed of your treachery.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 24/08/2025 12:06

The comments are great. My favourite is: you may as well talk to a fridge, or any inanimate object.

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 24/08/2025 12:09

Great article, thanks for the link.

quantumbutterfly · 24/08/2025 12:31

That was a joy to read, thank you for the link.❤️

I still picture Tracy E as the young woman she was, the photo reminded me that the years have passed. She's impressive.

Igmum · 24/08/2025 13:49

Thanks for the article @RumNotRun I too will look up her charities. They look like excellent causes for the Terven £.

ThePoshUns · 24/08/2025 14:26

Thank you for sharing. What a great article. All that progress made by women like Tracey being slowly undone by silly little actresses thinking they are being kind.

BundleBoogie · 24/08/2025 14:28

flyingbuttress43 · 24/08/2025 12:00

Just finished reading this - my Sunday morning newspaper ritual - what a woman.

It gave me a rush of nostalgia for the time from the 60s to the 90s when women were pushing the boundaries, proud to be female and doing our thing, so to speak. Sometimes I feel women of my generation have been wasting our time, then up pops someone like Tracy to remind us to hang on - this too will pass, as the cliche goes.

My favourite paragraph from the article: "Grant Dalton, a bluff New Zealander and today chief executive of his country's triumphantk America's Cup team scoffed: "If those chicks beat me, I'll put a pineapple up my arse and run up Queen Street in Auckland naked." Tracy's response? "Still waiting Grant."

Tracy was a woman of that era between the 60s and the 90s.

Now we have to put up with the feeble be-kind brigade like the little actress trembling as she read out the statement betraying Tracy. Turkeys voting for Christmas. Fuck off little actress - you and everyone of that cast who supported you should be ashamed of your treachery.

Treachery is a good word for it.

It is also testament to the poor decision making and lack of thinking sometimes observed in young people (thankfully my kids are far more mature and self aware than she is).

Another good reason why kids should not be allowed to make life changing decisions that will unnecessarily harm their health and fertility.

TeenToTwenties · 24/08/2025 15:38

sophiecygnet · 24/08/2025 10:30

Gosh! I was on the dockside when she brought Maiden into Ocean Village.
Later I helped support a young woman trying to start an Olympic campaign.
Great set of girls and women all through the sport of sailing.

Only tangentially related. My parents had Dame Ellen MacArthur to stay twice before she was famous as she was giving talks to their tiny sailing association in a land locked county.

NImumconfused · 24/08/2025 15:50

That line about them being scared to meet her incensed me. What has happened to the younger generation that they are apparently so terrified of meeting people with different opinions to them? What possible harm did they think they would come to meeting an older woman in a social situation, just because she doesn't believe you can change sex? I despair, I really do.