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Paul Weller is about to help TERFs

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Charabanc · 20/08/2025 14:31

Supporters of the omnicause over on BlueHairSky are very excited that Paul Weller is going to sue his ex-accountants for discrimination for his views on Gaza.

It is only just starting to occur to some of them that our beliefs are protected, too... And that Paul's (imo inevitable win) will strengthen our postion.

https://www.hja.net/news-and-insights/press-releases/civil-liberties-human-rights/paul-weller-sues-former-accountants-for-discrimination-after-they-drop-him-over-his-gaza-views/

Paul Weller Sues Former Accountants for Discrimination After They Drop Him Over His Gaza Views

Paul Weller is taking legal action against Harris & Trotter LLP, alleging discrimination after the firm ended its 30-year relationship over his Gaza views.

https://www.hja.net/news-and-insights/press-releases/civil-liberties-human-rights/paul-weller-sues-former-accountants-for-discrimination-after-they-drop-him-over-his-gaza-views

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AMiddleClassWomanOfACertainAge · 20/08/2025 14:42

Didn’t Wings Over Scotland have a similar case that was won or settled? And ofc Allison Bailey’s vet case was won. Will be interesting to see how PW’s progresses and whether his views a) qualify at all and b) if the expression tipped over into anti semitism. I’m not suggesting they did and have not read what was linked.

Arran2024 · 20/08/2025 14:45

Wings over Scotland was let go by his accountants over his gender critical views and sued them and won. https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/1933493253866664335

https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/1933493253866664335

Charabanc · 20/08/2025 14:46

But Paul Weller is properly famous. People will pay attention.

Anyway, I think he'll win, because the accountants didn't accuse him of anti-Semetism. They just didn't like his views on Gaza and "genocide".

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AnSolas · 20/08/2025 14:51

Yep,

And the firm is kicking him out under Religion or Belief and made that very clear. It will be interesting to see what paperwork appears in that trial.

And where will the firm stand on professional duty and ethics with they professional body. Its a sweeping statement to say " the Firm" as not all staff will hold the same views either?

AnSolas · 20/08/2025 14:58

Arran2024 · 20/08/2025 14:45

Wings over Scotland was let go by his accountants over his gender critical views and sued them and won. https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/1933493253866664335

Wings could go back to the ACCA if he got a vourt ruling under the EA10. He has effectively done the "heavy lifting" on the the reason why a disiplinary should happen and why the ACCA can fins who ever guilty....
Its I think a tiny bit more complex if they reached a settlement?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/08/2025 19:57

It depends whether his view's and opinions amount to a belief or a political stand, there was that bank that cancelled Farage's account because they didn't like his politics', I don't know what happened in that one though.

Charabanc · 20/08/2025 20:20

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/08/2025 19:57

It depends whether his view's and opinions amount to a belief or a political stand, there was that bank that cancelled Farage's account because they didn't like his politics', I don't know what happened in that one though.

The bank ended up settling.

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illinivich · 20/08/2025 20:20

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/08/2025 19:57

It depends whether his view's and opinions amount to a belief or a political stand, there was that bank that cancelled Farage's account because they didn't like his politics', I don't know what happened in that one though.

They settled out of court. But i think that was more to do with disclosing confidential info.

I cant see how an opinion on a conflict can be a belief? Pacifist, maybe?

AnSolas · 20/08/2025 22:18

illinivich · 20/08/2025 20:20

They settled out of court. But i think that was more to do with disclosing confidential info.

I cant see how an opinion on a conflict can be a belief? Pacifist, maybe?

The bank staff made it clear that the reason they were getting rid of him was his politics. Note the staff who have

Nat west had an "independant" report done which said they were loosing money on the account and I guess this decision cost them a lot more than if they had let it run
"The law firm conducted 43 interviews with 28 current and former members of staff as part of the review, including former chief executive Alison Rose, who stepped down after admitting to discussing Farage’s accounts with a BBC journalist in July. Lawyers also had access to 3.7m documents."

The Banking Regulator appers to have given them a barely there pass by not looking too hard; (yet) this is very expensive
"The Financial Conduct Authority said it was reviewing NatWest group’s governance, systems and controls, given that the Travers Smith report highlighted “potential regulatory breaches” and a need for improvement in areas including how the bank considers the potential closure of accounts, handles complaints from customers, and the effectiveness of its governance mechanisms."

Content and tone differ in the 2 articles:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/27/natwest-decision-to-close-nigel-farage-bank-accounts-was-lawful-says-report-coutts

https://news.sky.com/story/closure-of-nigel-farages-bank-account-predominantly-a-commercial-decision-review-finds-12993655

Anyway PW has a philosophical view point and some of the partners have a religious belief and a philosophical belief.

The Firm state as partners are of "Jewish roots and many Jewish partners’"

I am assuming PW is not of Jewish roots or Jewish or at least the Firm did not belief him to be as likely they would have used different wording
So that is Religion covered

Then Statehood and the military actions are events

Its a philosophical view point
● that the event is not taking place at all and
● others would say that an event(s) is taking place which
> should not be taking place and
● others who would agree the event is taking place
> but would argue that it should continue with one outcome and
● others who would agree the event is taking place
> but would argue that it should continue with different outcome

PW could also go with Race too as they stated "Jewish roots and many Jewish partners" which is a recognised ethnic class in the UK and again once the Firm believed him to be of another ethnic group he has the start of a claim.

10 Religion or belief
(1)Religion means any religion and a reference to religion includes a reference to a lack of religion.
(2)Belief means any religious or philosophical belief and a reference to belief includes a reference to a lack of belief.
(3)In relation to the protected characteristic of religion or belief—
(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person of a particular religion or belief;
(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons who are of the same religion or belief.

9 Race
(1)Race includes—
(a)colour;
(b)nationality;
(c)ethnic or national origins.
(2)In relation to the protected characteristic of race—
(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person of a particular racial group;
(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons of the same racial group.
(3)A racial group is a group of persons defined by reference to race; and a reference to a person's racial group is a reference to a racial group into which the person falls.
(4)The fact that a racial group comprises two or more distinct racial groups does not prevent it from constituting a particular racial group.
(5)A Minister of the Crown F1...—
(a)[F2must by order] amend this section so as to provide for caste to be an aspect of race;
(b)[F3may by order] amend this Act so as to provide for an exception to a provision of this Act to apply, or not to apply, to caste or to apply, or not to apply, to caste in specified circumstances.
(6)The power under section 207(4)(b), in its application to subsection (5), includes power to amend this Act.

'Serious failings' in decision to close Nigel Farage account, review finds

Closing Nigel Farage's Coutts account was "predominantly a commercial decision", according to a review from law firm Travers Smith. But Mr Farage said the report "whitewashed" the closure. NatWest share price sank with the largest drop since the 2016 B...

https://news.sky.com/story/closure-of-nigel-farages-bank-account-predominantly-a-commercial-decision-review-finds-12993655

WimbledonWhites · 20/08/2025 22:49

I’m sure all those who were quite happy with Farage being booted from NatWest will be equally happy for Paul Weller… oh wait. (I know that was a bank and this is accountants but there are similarities)

Not the point but doing this by WhatsApp feels very unprofessional.

AnSolas · 20/08/2025 23:01

I guess after a 30 year relationship with partners who likely know more about his personal life than some of his family creates a friendship or at least an illusion of friendship

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