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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

At least 50% of men get vaginal thrush

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/08/2025 10:40

If you believe the McMaster university campaign to counter health misinformation.

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LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:32

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:29

If it's passing back and forth, then it could just as easily be labelled penile thrush following the logic that it is okay to say men have vaginal thrush, which would be equally ridiculous, or how's about just calling it sexually transmitted thrush or just thrush for short.
But men do not have vaginas and therefore they do not have vaginal thrush!

Well no it couldn’t be just as easily called penile thrush because that would be like saying breast cancer could just as easily be called chest cancer because men get it too, and even though it is in far far fewer numbers, only men matter so let’s call it chest cancer.🤨

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:32

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:28

It’s not “deeply misogynistic” to make a generalisation that is statistically and factually true. Women are most likely to spontaneously develop it, meaning men are most likely to acquire it from PIV sex.

You are reading too much into it to think there is a finger of blame to be pointed for thrush.

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Candida albicans is part of normal gut flora, no one spontaneously grows fungi.

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:34

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:32

Well no it couldn’t be just as easily called penile thrush because that would be like saying breast cancer could just as easily be called chest cancer because men get it too, and even though it is in far far fewer numbers, only men matter so let’s call it chest cancer.🤨

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Men do get breast cancer, it involves the breast buds, so is definitely breast cancer, and should be called as such. So not sure where your are going with this.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:35

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:32

Candida albicans is part of normal gut flora, no one spontaneously grows fungi.

”it” clearly refers to vaginal thrush, not candida.
You can spontaneously develop vaginal thrush as it is an overgrowth of candida.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:39

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:34

Men do get breast cancer, it involves the breast buds, so is definitely breast cancer, and should be called as such. So not sure where your are going with this.

I did say men get it too.
The point is that most diseases have names that point to the area where it most often manifests:
Thrush- that is most frequently in the vagina
Cancer in chest area- that is most frequently in breast tissue

There is no fault to assign by this naming convention, it merely reflects which sex is most at risk.

DiscoBob · 20/08/2025 11:41

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 10:29

It's a fungus not a bacteria.

It is commonly candida albicans, and can be found at multiple sites around the body, not associated with the vagina or sexual activity.

Ok fair enough. So it is only called vaginal when actually on a vagina.

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:44

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:39

I did say men get it too.
The point is that most diseases have names that point to the area where it most often manifests:
Thrush- that is most frequently in the vagina
Cancer in chest area- that is most frequently in breast tissue

There is no fault to assign by this naming convention, it merely reflects which sex is most at risk.

No one in medicine talks about "chest cancer". Medical and scientific language needs to be accurate, and academics should know this and apply this to their peer reviewed studies and their sound bite tweets too. If the last 10 years has taught you nothing else it should be the importance and power of language.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 20/08/2025 11:54

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 10:03

Just because you had no idea men could catch vaginal thrush it doesn’t meant there is some comms blunder. You are just learning a new biological fact.

This reminds me of how the transvaginal scan thread went.

No that's not the convention. I'm well aware of penile and oral thrush and I've obviously heard where it came from being referred to in how one got infected, but I've never heard of thrush being classified by where the infection came from.

As far as I know you can't swab thrush on one part of the body and determine which different part of the body it originally came from because it's all the same organism.

www.webdoctor.ie/thrush-treatment/thrush-types-treatments

Vaginal thrush is thrush in a vagina, not thrush from a vagina.

Thrush on the penis is penile thrush.

Thrush in the mouth is oral thrush.

You matly treat them differently but you treat them based on where it is, not where it came from.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 20/08/2025 11:58

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:39

I did say men get it too.
The point is that most diseases have names that point to the area where it most often manifests:
Thrush- that is most frequently in the vagina
Cancer in chest area- that is most frequently in breast tissue

There is no fault to assign by this naming convention, it merely reflects which sex is most at risk.

I have literally never heard this "convention". Have you, or are you juat applying an interpretation you feel could be true?

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 12:00

@LoremIpsumCici if a man goes down on a women who had a current candida overgrowth in her vagina, and then sees his dentist for candida symptoms in his mouth. What are we calling it?
A) oral thrush
B) vaginal thrush

What should be written in his notes for sake of clarity and future reference? Won't people find it a little confusing looking at a mans dental notes stating the dentist diagnosed vaginal thrush... So many questions?!!

GallantKumquat · 20/08/2025 13:23

according to the US CDC 75% of women will get VVC in their lifetime. Presumably this comes from the same source that McMaster university got theirs and they just clumsily wokified the wording for social media.

archive.ph/8hsIo

Era · 20/08/2025 13:51

Periperi2025 · 20/08/2025 11:29

If it's passing back and forth, then it could just as easily be labelled penile thrush following the logic that it is okay to say men have vaginal thrush, which would be equally ridiculous, or how's about just calling it sexually transmitted thrush or just thrush for short.
But men do not have vaginas and therefore they do not have vaginal thrush!

Sorry this is my lawyerly pedantry no doubt but my point was that the tweet said that 75% of people were affected by vaginal thrush, not that 75% pf people have vaginal thrush. Therefore there is no need to re-label it. A male who gets thrush from a female with vaginal thrush might not have "vaginal thrush" but they have most certainly been affected by vaginal thrush because its caused them to have thrush.

Point remains that males can be affected by it and this isn't uncommon.

If the author is trying to be "inclusive" and these stats only relate to biological females then presumably it's to bring transmen (ie females) into the equation without having to overtly label them as women which many of them would object to. Personally I think that use of female and male as descriptors is the best way out of this ridiculous game of words.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/08/2025 14:16

LoremIpsumCici · 20/08/2025 11:39

I did say men get it too.
The point is that most diseases have names that point to the area where it most often manifests:
Thrush- that is most frequently in the vagina
Cancer in chest area- that is most frequently in breast tissue

There is no fault to assign by this naming convention, it merely reflects which sex is most at risk.

That's not true. Breast cancer isn't called breast cancer because it 'usually manifests' in the general breast area. It is specifically cancer of the breast tissue - whether that is male or female breast tissue.

Other types of cancer also occurr 'on the chest'. They're not called breast cancer. They are called rhabdomyosarcoma, or melanoma, or whatever is the correct name for cancer of that type of tissue.

Vaginal thrush is thrush in the vagina.

The McMaster tweet is part of a health information campaign based on the figures referenced above showing that 75% of women will get vaginal thrush.

Not men. It's nothing to do with men.

That's the point. Saying 75% of 'people' is the wrong statistic. It confuses the issue and makes readers think it's about men and women. It's not.

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