At least 50% of men get vaginal thrush

[NoBinturongsHereMate]

If you believe the McMaster university campaign to counter health misinformation.

Sadly, the page and video are still there. 13seconds in they still have the claim about 75% of people.

They’ve not rethought this at all.

Perhaps they should have stopped modernising, at least just a bit?

I thought there were only 3 decent universities in Canada!

@Valeriekat and what 3 would that be?? i'm in canada and each province has at least one big name well positioned university. some offer medicine most don't, most canadian universities are very good.

I would read that as men becoming infected with vaginal thrush on their penises based on the microbiology of the thrush.
kind of like how mothers nipples become infected with thrush from babies mouths.

Still, according to those figures it's 100% of women and 50% of men - or equivalent - which seems an awful lot.

My partner has caught Trish from me on more than one occasion. Could it be that it is called vaginal thrush as this was the source of the infection?

Even if this is the case, it highlights the problems caused by the use of ‘people’ when discussing sex specific conditions and issues

That thought occurred to an Era and there was a good answer to that.

The piece is about vaginal thrush. There is no misunderstanding about that - just a huge disregard for clear communication.

What do you think was more plausible here - that they may an unintentional comms blunder which they failed to correct after being alerted to it? Or that ideology governed their actions and they deleted a tweet sooner than address it, while leaving the piece material up. If you watch the video, they definitely mean “women,” they just can’t bring themselves to use the word.

Here's the tweet....

So do they mean people (all humans) or do they mean women?

Well it seems any thought I had that it was a lone misguided associate professor is out the window - Helen Joyce talks about the involvement of a McMaster prof in the whole gender medicine question...

https://x.com/HJoyceGender/status/1958066813662638295

"After criticism of his reviews showing that gender interventions are based on no good evidence, the man who coined the phrase "evidence based medicine" now says that when there's no good evidence supporting an intervention, you should go with what the patient says they want. 2/3"

^This.
Vaginal thrush is just a yeast overgrowth and women can give it to their partners. In men it is often symptomless and after the woman gets it treated, he can then give it back to her. When men have symptoms, it’s called jock itch. It’s the exact same infection.

It is why whenever you get vaginal thrush all your sexual partners should get treatment for it too and you should throughly clean any sex toys.

Just because you had no idea men could catch vaginal thrush it doesn’t meant there is some comms blunder. You are just learning a new biological fact.

This reminds me of how the transvaginal scan thread went.

I agree 100%. It’s been pointed out many times how this nonsense disadvantages the very people, eg with poor language or reading skills, who most need clear and accurate information.

I noticed the link didn’t work when I tried it. Maybe adults at McMaster’s desperately trying to repair the university’s reputation!

So does this mean that
A) 50% of xy men with penises get candida albicans
B) 50% of trans women with pseudo vaginas get thrush
C) 50% of trans men who are still complete with fully functioning vaginas get thrush

So maybe 150%* of women get vaginal thrush, and that doesn't even include the xx old school women out there. There is an epidemic of thrush, this is terrible news!

*I know that's not how statistics work, I'm being facetious, but Mcmasters university don't seem to know how biology or language works, so...

I see nothing wrong with it..yes, men can get it off women. It's called vaginal thrush regardless of whether it's on a vagina or not, if it originated from one. So that statistic seems believable?
It's not saying men have vaginas?

Though they could spilt the figure by sex to give more information.

It is impossible to fit an entire research study in a tweet. 🤪
The tweet is just meant to let you know it is published. I am 100% convinced your questions will be answered in the methodology and results sections.

No it's not called vaginal thrush if it isn't in the vagina. It is candida albicans (or occasionally another rarer type of candida fungus). If it is in the oral cavity it is not vaginal thrush, if it is in the oesophagus it is not vaginal thrush, of it is in the penis it is not vaginal thrush.

Men do NOT ever have vaginal thrush.

I thought it was the culture of the bacteria and it was named after vaginas because that's where it comes from? I know oral thrush but it's different? So they're saying the men catch vaginal thrush. Which is true? Maybe it gets called something else when it's on a penis, but it's the same thing?

It's a fungus not a bacteria.

It is commonly candida albicans, and can be found at multiple sites around the body, not associated with the vagina or sexual activity.

Come on, in common discourse candida infections anywhere on the genitals are always referred to as vaginal thrush.

I can imagine the complaining about comms if they had put “75% of people suffer from a candida infection at some time in their life” in a tweet!

It doesn’t make knowledge accessible to use Latin ffs in tweets to the masses, many of whom don’t have any biology after age 16.

It is associated sexual activity. The only reason it isn’t classed as an STI is because that isn’t the most common way to end up with it as usually it is caused by an overgrowth of the candida above normal levels.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/thrush-in-men-and-women/

NHS just calls it “thrush” perhaps the tweet should have just dropped the vaginal if people are being offended over “vaginal”

It matters because not all penile thrush is vaginal in origin. Calling it vaginal thrush is deeply misogynistic. It may be the result of anal sex between men, immunocompromise, yeast overgrowth in diabetics, yeast over growth in antibiotic use, poor hygiene. It should not be called vaginal as this is deliberately misleading and insinuating blame on women.

But the tweet says that 75% of people are affected by vaginal thrush at some stage in their life. Not that 75% of people have vaginal thrush. Vaginal thrush gets passed from females to males and back again. Thus the males are "affected" by vaginal thrush

I think there are plenty of objectionable (mis)uses of language due to gender nonsense but Im not sure this is actually one of them.

It’s not “deeply misogynistic” to make a generalisation that is statistically and factually true. Women are most likely to spontaneously develop it, meaning men are most likely to acquire it from PIV sex.

You are reading too much into it to think there is a finger of blame to be pointed for thrush.

If it's passing back and forth, then it could just as easily be labelled penile thrush following the logic that it is okay to say men have vaginal thrush, which would be equally ridiculous, or how's about just calling it sexually transmitted thrush or just thrush for short.
But men do not have vaginas and therefore they do not have vaginal thrush!