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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Medical study on sexual pain - you can apply if you have had "a vagina from birth" ??

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Fenlandia · 15/08/2025 20:09

From Milli Hill's excellent The Word is Woman newsletter, this is a sexual pain study being run from Oxford University. It sounds useful and sensible apart from the fact it dare not name that class of "people" or "individuals" who have had "a vagina from birth".

What a gross phrase, as well as just sounding mad. Did you have one from birth or did you pop one into your shopping basket when you were buying milk one day?

Surely they can't be using this mad newspeak to differentiate women from the results of certain surgeries that some trans-identified men get?

Medical study on sexual pain - you can apply if you have had "a vagina from birth" ??
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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 16/08/2025 16:36

BusWankers · 15/08/2025 21:39

No, they just don't want men who pretend to be women to take part.

Then say that!

MimiGC · 16/08/2025 17:05

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 16/08/2025 16:36

Then say that!

I agree they should, but they will be too frightened of the repercussions.

LemondrizzleShark · 16/08/2025 17:33

Oddly, it excludes all pain from sex due to vaginal atrophy so I guess women in peri or menopause don’t matter. We must be too old for good sex.

We don’t know what the hypothesis is - there is probably a reason vaginal atrophy is specifically excluded. Email them and ask! It’s unlikely four female medical researchers just don’t really care about middle aged women.

edited to add: they will have had to justify all of their exclusion criteria to an ethics committee and “we don’t care about old women” would not have got through!

MistyGreenAndBlue · 16/08/2025 20:28

LemondrizzleShark · 16/08/2025 17:33

Oddly, it excludes all pain from sex due to vaginal atrophy so I guess women in peri or menopause don’t matter. We must be too old for good sex.

We don’t know what the hypothesis is - there is probably a reason vaginal atrophy is specifically excluded. Email them and ask! It’s unlikely four female medical researchers just don’t really care about middle aged women.

edited to add: they will have had to justify all of their exclusion criteria to an ethics committee and “we don’t care about old women” would not have got through!

Edited

I would assume its because the reason for sexual pain in these women is already known.

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