Kate Forbes makes them feel unsafe…

[Cismyfatarse]

Shona Robison urges ‘tolerance’ after gender-critical row at Fringe. Apparently, tiny Kate, Deputy FM of Scotland made the ickle tiny fragile TAs feel “unsafe”. Honestly, they are so ridiculous. Thankfully the debate about similar no platforming is really hitting the press and exposing all their folly and faux fragility.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/89a9f333-8c3f-4a5f-807b-d6228f85ad52?shareToken=7fd685b2acb7804e24b19bc90ba01b18

No @SionnachRuadh . Love the sinner and hate the sin innit? And of course that's all of us according to the Wee Free. And the Catholics as well to be fair. Perhaps Summer hall could have speakers fill out a religious belief questionnaire. Where to draw the line though. Lots of people find tattoos intimidating for example. Nuns! Ginger hair....

I have a certain amount of sympathy with people having irrational fears and worries.

The problem is that these cannot be used as a basis for programming arts venues, or writing policy, or basing any of that type of decision.

It’s like Groundhog Day. Jerry, Joanna Cherry…

They should hold a die in as they collapse at the literal violence of all those words being thrown around. Words like, Supreme Court and Law.

Terrifying I tell ya!

Mind, can you imagine JKR actually wanting to go to a show at the Fringe? She’d need an effective disguise!

In a way society owes it to these cry bullies not to take their nonsense seriously. Spending your whole life feigning (or even worse, genuinely feeling) terror of people with views that don’t align with your own is incredibly unhealthy and no way to achieve personal growth.

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Does this mean if I go 'roar' at a transwoman in a mouse like way, they'll start crying and run away?

Somehow I think if I test this theory I'd get rather a different response.

Along with violence, genocide, vulnerable, woman, they’ve devalued all these words which is exactly what their aim is, they’ve set out to change the meaning of words to fit their insidious ideology. I cannot express how pathetic and laughable these people are.

Can you imagine the warnings

"This show may contain references to flying, heights, spiders, clowns, small spaces, needles, snakes, being alone, people from other countries, long words, blood, death, dogs, germs, open spaces, the dark, speaking in public, cats, bees, water, pain, failure, books, mirrors, food, technology, vomit, sharks, commitment, ageing, cockroaches, mice, bananas, hospitals, dentists, beards...

...and biological women.

They are feeling unsafe because words can be exceptionally powerful when coming out of the mouths of exceptionally bright and informed women. Men have been shutting women down for centuries. Claiming they are mad. Claiming they are hormonal. Claiming they are stupid because they are terrified of the things they say causing change that will tip the balance of the delicate ecosystem men have nurtured to benefit them. Boo bloody hoo.

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and lo, they just kept on speaking. And the Times was glorious in it's reporting about them being scared of a 5'2" woman. Brilliant.

Let them keep showing themselves up for the twits they are.

There was an orange march in Edi on Saturday (I think), according to dd.
Fringe, Oasis at Murrayfield and some road shut off for an orange march, now that is stressful.

Beth Upton might.

Jenny Lindsay in the Spectator: Kate Forbes's treatment at the Edinburgh Fringe was a farce | The Spectator

This is a good point:

Her religious views wouldn’t have permitted her to vote for same-sex marriage had she been in parliament at the time that Act was passed. She has also said she’d personally never have an abortion. Both viewpoints arguably scuppered her leadership bid against former First Minister Humza Yousaf in 2023, despite his devout Muslim beliefs likely being similar. If you want to impose a double standard on a woman, of course, it suddenly becomes very easy to know what one is.

I think we should set them up like bowling pins in an alley.

You then get the chance to shout literal violence, & it’s one point for each one that’s bowled over.

Ive just read that BBC article - did Summerhall just state to the BBC that they would illegally discriminate against Forbes in future?

'In a statement, the Summerhall venue said: "This event was booked as a series of longform interviews prior to the guest list being confirmed.
"Summerhall Arts primary concern is the safety and wellbeing of the artists and performers we work with, and going forward we will be developing robust, proactive inclusion and wellbeing policies that would prevent this oversight in our bookings process happening again."'

(my bold).

I do look forward to seeing these 'inclusion' policies.

I can't see them as being anything other than exclusion policies on the basis of belief.

'We need inclusion policies to make sure those women don't come in!'

🤣

Never used the Snowflake label but these poor petals are definitely ❄️

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Inclusion is exclusion.

Nah. Even when he knew that (at least one, if not many more) women were creeped out by having a man in the female changing room, he did not hurriedly remove himself. Even when SP spoke to him, he didn’t excuse himself, and only left when he was good and ready. Having told the woman in the women’s changing room that he was perfectly entitled to be there, despite her obvious distress.

Now, granted, once he wandered out of the female changing room, and in view of an appreciative and indulgent audience, a great display of grief and terror seems to have been put on display by said 6 footer, men’s hockey playing, entitled bloke.

That’s my understanding of it all, from the employment tribunal, anyway.

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Bollocks do they feel unsafe. They're pampered, cosseted, predominantly mc kids who know perfectly well that the adults in charge are utterly spineless, and they only have to utter the word "unsafe" while clutching their rainbow lanyard to get exactly what they want.

A while ago I had an online meeting, sort of a group therapy for mental health. As I was logging in I heard one of the staff say, "I've put my pronouns, does that make you feel safer now" to which a bloke with long pink hair said he did.

I didn't say anything at the time, but I didn't put my pronouns. I had to write a letter (no other way to contact them) pointing out that as the software moved people around on screen it might be better to put, "nurse", "psychologist" etc.