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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Article: ‘I’ve been spat on’: gender non-conforming women tell of toilet abuse after UK’s supreme court ruling

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BeeSourianteAgain · 12/08/2025 21:33

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/12/ive-been-spat-on-gender-non-conforming-women-tell-of-toilet-abuse-in-aftermath-of-supreme-court-ruling

Actual feminists and trans people said that this would happen..and that the SC ruling would affect GNC women far more than trans women. Sadly in their seething obsessive hate of trans people, cisgender women are just collateral for 'gender critical' activists.

‘I’ve been spat on’: gender non-conforming women tell of toilet abuse after UK’s supreme court ruling

Support groups report that women and non-binary people are increasingly being challenged in toilets and changing facilities – but others call it scaremongering

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/12/ive-been-spat-on-gender-non-conforming-women-tell-of-toilet-abuse-in-aftermath-of-supreme-court-ruling

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Helleofabore · 13/08/2025 09:55

I wonder if the Guardian and those using these incidents as gotchas realise the misogyny behind their framing of this situation.

That a man abused a woman because he thought she was a man is the man’s issue. It is wrong to blame his actions on women who want single sex spaces.

And the reality is as so many have said prior to this, if men never claimed access to female single sex spaces, women and girls would also not be in the situation where they are hyper vigilant about who is in their spaces.

When you strip away all the emotional shielding, male people demanded access to spaces and services that that were never entitled to, yet groups are blaming the female people who reject those male people being there rather than the male people causing distress and hypervigilence in female people. At a time when male violence and abuse of women and girls is at significant levels.

You really couldn’t make up how misogynistic that framing by the guardian is, yet that media outlet believes it is righteous!! Well done BeeS for bringing to light the misogyny for us all to see.

Greyskybluesky · 13/08/2025 10:00

This thread is here so a male person can say to women "See? See? See what you did? It's all your fault!"

Predictable and incorrect.

elgreco · 13/08/2025 10:07

You made me do it.

Greyskybluesky · 13/08/2025 10:11

elgreco · 13/08/2025 10:07

You made me do it.

Yep. Totally.

Dominoodles · 13/08/2025 10:13

Isn't it strange how all these articles suddenly came up only after the ruling? People didn't seem to care about women being harassed in toilets until they were told that males couldn't go in and suddenly its a huge issue.

Almost like people are using women and their rights/safety to force us to accept trans peoples access to womens spaces.

SquirrelChaser · 13/08/2025 11:14

So where did they pee before the SC ruling? Are they suggesting that no one attacked them because they assumed they were male? I really don't believe this. I've been in plenty of loos with GNC women. You can still tell they are women.

PlanetJanette · 13/08/2025 12:51

You need to get your story straight. You can’t simultaneously claims this never happens, while also citing ‘GC’ people who say it happens to them all the time but they don’t have a problem with it.

Also if you think this point hasn’t been raised before ad nauseum you’ve not been paying attention. The impacts of greater gender policing have been discussed by (real) feminists for years.

MurkyWeather · 13/08/2025 13:05

PlanetJanette · 13/08/2025 12:51

You need to get your story straight. You can’t simultaneously claims this never happens, while also citing ‘GC’ people who say it happens to them all the time but they don’t have a problem with it.

Also if you think this point hasn’t been raised before ad nauseum you’ve not been paying attention. The impacts of greater gender policing have been discussed by (real) feminists for years.

Well you see something can be very rare on a population level but happen more than once to a handful of individuals.
Not sure what you mean by real feminists. Are they the ones with penises?

TotalElephant · 13/08/2025 13:08

Abhannmor · 13/08/2025 07:50

Where is christinipple? Or whatever his name is. Has bee captured him. I think we should be told .

The fragrant Aida as well, haven't seen him for ages.

MurkyWeather · 13/08/2025 13:10

TotalElephant · 13/08/2025 13:08

The fragrant Aida as well, haven't seen him for ages.

I suspect Aida got banned

Helleofabore · 13/08/2025 13:17

Well, the other thing is, some women and girl are asked and some of those numerous times. But none of us are getting abused and we also don’t consider it an act of abuse or in any way problematic when it does happen.

So, yes. It happens that we are asked. No we are not being abused as it is so often being framed by those who are seeking to leverage getting male people accepted into female spaces.

For many women, they will never be asked or will not be the one asking because they can reliably work out someone’s sex. But even those of us who are / have been asked, we don’t / didn’t consider it as an act of offence or abuse. I suspect when people say it ‘never happens’ they are referring to it never happens to them, and if it happened to them it was not an offensive or abusive thing as what has been catastrophised by so many activists seeking to shame people who want female spaces to be female only.

Datun · 13/08/2025 13:46

PlanetJanette · 13/08/2025 12:51

You need to get your story straight. You can’t simultaneously claims this never happens, while also citing ‘GC’ people who say it happens to them all the time but they don’t have a problem with it.

Also if you think this point hasn’t been raised before ad nauseum you’ve not been paying attention. The impacts of greater gender policing have been discussed by (real) feminists for years.

Man confronts woman because she's not conforming to his idea of femininity?

Yep, some men are absolute twats. That's why we need our own spaces.

Honestly, it's utterly baffling why TRAs think this is an argument to let more men into women's spaces

MarieDeGournay · 13/08/2025 14:39

There is another thread on this subject, and somebody has made the excellent point that the kind of people who spit on other people are unlikely to be influenced by the UK Supreme Court's rulings😏

Alternatively :
'I used to just mind my own business when I went to the loo, and I've never spat at another person ever, but then the UK Supreme Court made that ruling, so now I single out anybody in the women's toilet who doesn't look like Barbie and spit at them. The Supreme Court made me do it!'

SionnachRuadh · 13/08/2025 14:45

Tbh what Planet is really upset about is the possibility that some men will have to use the men's toilet and nobody will challenge them.

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