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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Baroness writes to M&S

51 replies

TheBaronesshasWrittenaLetter · 11/08/2025 13:15

Another corker of a letter from Baroness Nicholson. In case the image doesn’t attach link to the Emma’s post on X https://x.com/baroness_nichol/status/1954845229217157307?s=46

The Baroness writes to M&S
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UnpaintedLily · 11/08/2025 22:58

Does Emma Nicholson still sit as a LD?

ErrolTheDragon · 11/08/2025 23:33

Glamourreader · 11/08/2025 13:29

I adore the baroness, Jaguar levels of confidence!!! Love it

Very interesting that she specifies gender identity as a protected characteristic only for those with a diagnosis

Not quite; her point is that ‘gender identity‘ was explicitly rejected as a protected characteristic, it’s ‘gender reasignment’ which is.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/08/2025 23:36

SecretIrnBruDrinker · 11/08/2025 16:24

Ouch. I could almost feel sorry for anyone receiving a letter like that. It's got insults in there you only get on the second or third reading, and which Mr M&S is never going to be able to formulate a witty reply to, no matter how long he spends in the shower trying to think of one. It will haunt him.

Still, at least he’s got off without being invited to tea with her.Grin

InflagranteDelicto · 12/08/2025 07:21

I can't pick out a favourite phrase - it's a cracking letter. The Baroness is an amazing wordsmith

DrBlackbird · 12/08/2025 07:47

Yes but it makes me sad to think of her going. Doubtful her predecessor will fight for women’s rights as fiercely and eloquently as she has.

NeverOneBiscuit · 12/08/2025 07:50

Fabulous example of the pen being mightier than the sword.

Glamourreader · 12/08/2025 07:58

ErrolTheDragon · 11/08/2025 23:33

Not quite; her point is that ‘gender identity‘ was explicitly rejected as a protected characteristic, it’s ‘gender reasignment’ which is.

My mistake, I failed to double check. Interesting point of clarity from her when it's being used by anyone who feels entitled to it.

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 12/08/2025 08:08

DrBlackbird · 12/08/2025 07:47

Yes but it makes me sad to think of her going. Doubtful her predecessor will fight for women’s rights as fiercely and eloquently as she has.

Going? Where is baroness Nicholson going? Is she retiring from the lords?

UnpaintedLily · 12/08/2025 08:22

Since nobody answered my question about Nicholson's current political affiliation I looked it up myself: she returned to the Tories back in the May era.

DrBlackbird · 12/08/2025 08:23

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 12/08/2025 08:08

Going? Where is baroness Nicholson going? Is she retiring from the lords?

Ah my mistake I was thinking it was Baroness Falkner. Glad that it’s not as in the letters can continue.

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 12/08/2025 09:12

DrBlackbird · 12/08/2025 08:23

Ah my mistake I was thinking it was Baroness Falkner. Glad that it’s not as in the letters can continue.

Ahhhhh 😁😁 yes long may the letter continue!

Stickingpoint · 12/08/2025 19:38

Delighted that my friend sent an email of thanks to the Baroness and received a wonderful response.

BunnyRuddington · 12/08/2025 19:53

I wonder if Archie has replied yet?

NotAtMyAge · 12/08/2025 20:42

parietal · 11/08/2025 14:02

Why does she say “neither do our husbands”. That seems a bit unnecessary and implies that a husband’s opinion on women’s changing rooms is relevant. It should be enough to listen to what women want.

Because she's an 84 year-old woman, widowed in tragic circumstances after only a few years of marriage and I truly believe it's what she honestly thinks. Given her outstanding record of sending excoriating letters to people with power and influence in support of women's rights, I do find this kind of nit-picking ungracious. Write a better letter if you think you can.

NotAtMyAge · 12/08/2025 20:43

UnpaintedLily · 11/08/2025 22:58

Does Emma Nicholson still sit as a LD?

No, she rejoined the Conservative party when Theresa May was PM.

SunnieShine · 12/08/2025 20:47

What a corker!

Mumnewname · 12/08/2025 20:52

parietal · 11/08/2025 14:02

Why does she say “neither do our husbands”. That seems a bit unnecessary and implies that a husband’s opinion on women’s changing rooms is relevant. It should be enough to listen to what women want.

The point she's making is it's not just bra-buying women who agree with her, it's everyone. It's like a version of the saying "the world and his wife".

mellongoose · 12/08/2025 20:54

She is wonderful and so is this letter. ⚡️⚡️

BiologicalRobot · 12/08/2025 20:58

parietal · 11/08/2025 14:02

Why does she say “neither do our husbands”. That seems a bit unnecessary and implies that a husband’s opinion on women’s changing rooms is relevant. It should be enough to listen to what women want.

I suspect she added that part in because she is very aware that men who have made it to the top will only care about what other men think, as it will be other men who will give them future jobs or pensions or grace them with societal niceties that mere peasants can only dream about. In CEO circles their wives are (usually) still doing the dinner parties and charity events that further their husband's career.

Yeah I hate it but if it gets the job done then I'll hold my nose.

Mum4MrA · 12/08/2025 21:25

Fantastic letter. Brava Baroness Nicholson 💝💝💝

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 21:48

I can't wait for m&s customer service who have been replying to all these emails to get that...

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 21:50

UnpaintedLily · 11/08/2025 22:58

Does Emma Nicholson still sit as a LD?

No.

Byjimminy · 12/08/2025 22:56

Glamourreader · 12/08/2025 07:58

My mistake, I failed to double check. Interesting point of clarity from her when it's being used by anyone who feels entitled to it.

I was surprised by the term "psychiatric diagnosis of gender dysphoria" as I thought there were claims it was not a mental disorder. After a quick google I'm very glad to read that it still is. Less glad to read that around 50% of those diagnosed with gender dysphoria also have a personality disorder, which seems a shockingly large proportion!

KnottyAuty · 12/08/2025 23:23

TheBaronesshasWrittenaLetter · 11/08/2025 13:15

Another corker of a letter from Baroness Nicholson. In case the image doesn’t attach link to the Emma’s post on X https://x.com/baroness_nichol/status/1954845229217157307?s=46

Zinger!

hholiday · 12/08/2025 23:26

I wish she/ somebody would publish a book of her letters some day. I would just love to sit and read them, one after another, interspersed with a tiny bit of context for each. It would be a wonderful terf Christmas present ( although we may come downstairs to find the wrapping paper has singed)!

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