SEE IF EMBDY HUD FUCKIN TELT ME

[RealFeminist]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/nicola-sturgeon-admits-she-should-have-paused-gender-reform-legislation

Just say the Terfs were right. It is quicker.

Julie Bindel
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Julie Etchingham: You became unstuck on the questions about the transgender prisoner, the rapist Isla Bryson. Why couldn't you answer that question?
Nicola Sturgeon: I think I was caught up in the...
Julie Etchingham: Will you answer it now, whether you believe Isla Bryson was a man?
Nicola Sturgeon: Isla Bryson identified as a woman. I think what I would say now is anybody who commits the most heinous male crime against women probably forfeits the right to be, you know, the gender of their choice.
Julie Etchingham: They forfeit to be the gender of their choice?
Nicola Sturgeon: Sorry, that's quite...
Julie Etchingham: I mean, this actually goes to the heart of the difficulty around this.
Nicola Sturgeon: That probably was not the best phrase to use. They forfeit their right to be the gender of their choice. If you rape a woman, then I think you probably... The debate about whether they should be called a woman or not, probably...
Julie Etchingham: Well, why don't you simply say that Isla Bryson is a biological male?
Nicola Sturgeon: They are a biological male, but that's about whether it gets back into the self-ID thing. I should have been much more straightforward. I wasn't. We'd lost all sense of rationality in this debate. I'm partly responsible for that. I should have been much more straightforward. I wasn't.
Julie Etchingham: And in a deeply personal moment, Nicola Sturgeon talks about her sexuality. Thank you.

This is the funniest post I have seen in a long time brava/0 to use Nicola language.

I can't see who the market for Wee Nicky Krankie's book is. SNP members will think she did a shit job, trans people will think she's rowed back, others will think she's corrupt, who does she think will pay cold hard cash for this in an economic crisis?

@RealFeministyou are a fucking legend

Wow she's still getting her tongue in a twist but nearly there. Keep thinking on it Nickers and a word of advice don't try and overtime as it's really not that deep.

Still floundering.

Now, as then, I'm thinking, "Find and follow the money."

How on earth is she going to square this with the true believers? Has anybody been brave enough to venture on to Reddit to see how her comments have been received? I can't do it myself, sorry!

Really wee Nic? Noo yae know whit a wummin is, dae yae aye?

Oh, yae've a book tae flog, gies it here a wee minute... Naw actually, I'm no wastin anymair ae ma time.

Frankly, hen, whit a pile ae pish. Ur yae even listen'in ae yersel? Ya n'absolute walloper.

Stoap picken at yer erse, that weggie fae bein hoistit by yer ain pertard isnae goin away anytime soon. Feminist, my arse.

I do envy Sturgeon’s ability to separate out the good men from the bad men tho. Her powers of discernment sound superhuman. All those other blokes are welcome in our loos because Nicola says they’re no threat. Can’t believe it was that simple all along!

So is 'rapist' a gender identity then?

And is it just serious sex offenders who lose the right to choose their gender - how about convicted terrorists or serial killers? Once you start saying one group can't choose their gender you're going to have to justify why other people can - particularly with the appallingly low conviction rate for sex offenders.

This makes no sense, does it?!

You either believe that it's possible for bio males to be women, or you don't. There's no logic to saying that the nice bio males can turn into women but the nasty ones can't. Especially as you won't know who's nasty until they are caught being nasty. Hence the need for single sex spaces

I used to have a lot of respect for NS. I felt she was one of the few politicians who did have integrity, and I liked her style / approach during Covid

But I'll never forgive SNP for turning their back know women, and she was at the forefront of that

Was going to put Isla Bryson into women's jails and also didn't want the amendment to ensure rape victims rape kit was done by a female only. She can....

AHM IN THE BROOM CUPBOARD THE NOO AH CANNAE HEAR YEES

Nicola's knickers are an inferno.

CHEERS DOLL

But Nicola you were very straightforward. Everyone who said anything were all transphobes and racists and homophobes. Your MSPs voted in favour of self-id GRCs and against rapists being refused GRCs. Can't get much simpler or more straightforward than that can you?

Until Adam Graham/Isla Bryson in his pink leggings backed you into a corner. Then it suddenly got not-so-straightforward after all.

Confession time - I totally admire your zero-pronoun speech about Adam Graham. Your self-control was fantastic. What a swan song!

Given the sentencing handed out to rapists in Scotland, denial of a right to identify as a woman could be the harshest aspect of their punishment.

I'm loving the BBC today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05eedgp804o
Rapists 'probably' forfeit right to choose gender - Sturgeon

'Probably'

Not definitely though.

MEBBES AYE MEBBES NAW

This is the best thread ever. Have had such a laugh, so thank you.

Still not going to buy your book, even when it's remaindered. edit for typo.

She (and the other TRAs) can’t have it both ways. If she wants the naice TW in female spaces she has to have Isla and his ilk as well.

She wants a two tier system which is unworkable and actually cruel to trans identifying people.

I love a principled politician

@AmaryllisNightAndDay But Nicola you were very straightforward. Everyone who said anything were all transphobes and racists and homophobes. Your MSPs voted in favour of self-id GRCs and against rapists being refused GRCs. Can't get much simpler or more straightforward than that can you?

I'll never forgive her for that. And it would take a lot for me to vote SNP ever again. It's also put me right off Independence, because obviously we'd be ruled by clowns and lunatics.