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Police Scotland in humiliating u-turn as it finally bans men from using female facilities and adheres to Supreme Court ruling

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IwantToRetire · 08/08/2025 18:51

Police Scotland has performed a humiliating u-turn after confirming new guidance that bans biologically male staff members from using female facilities. The force has finally adhered to the Supreme Court ruling and interim Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) guidance.

It means that access to single-sex workplace toilets, changing rooms and shower facilities are now restricted to those born that sex. It brings an end to gender self-identification within the public body with the cops and staff working for the country's combined police force now following the law.

Police Scotland becomes the second major public body or organisation to adopt the EHRC guidance, with the Scottish Parliament doing so in May. That led to protests and demonstrations from angry trans campaigners, with the Scottish Greens and a number of left-wing SNP MSPs also complaining about this.

Previously, it allowed staff members to use whatever facilities they felt most comfortable with, meaning that they could self-identify as another gender. But this has now been scrapped following discussions with legal officials, as well as consultations with some staff associations.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/police-scotland-humiliating-u-turn-35698935

Police Scotland in humiliating u-turn as it bans men from female facilities

The force has published new internal guidance which restricts the use of single-sex facilities to those born that sex, piling pressure on John Swinney to do the same.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/police-scotland-humiliating-u-turn-35698935

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2025 19:00

Well they are the police - who last time I looked were meant to be upholding and enforcing the law 🙄

Unbelievable they ever departed from doing this.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 08/08/2025 19:04

Will they also ensure that women are searched by biological women, not a man with laydee feelz?

NHSFifeSadTimes · 08/08/2025 23:53

Probably all linked to the NHS Fife shit show. Maybe they have finally recognised that they have overshot what the majority of the public feel is acceptable, and have seen the tide turn in the Scottish Press. Scottish media have been much more robust in their reporting than many English newspapers eg Guardian & Independent, and the BBC.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 09/08/2025 12:46

Isn’t there an election coming in Scotland? 🤔

Edam1 · 09/08/2025 12:49

About time! You'd expect the police to actually follow the actual law... without quibbling and moaning

Grammarnut · 10/08/2025 14:05

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 09/08/2025 12:46

Isn’t there an election coming in Scotland? 🤔

Next year, for the Scottish Assembly.

WallaceinAnderland · 10/08/2025 14:15

Someone in charge is smart enough to know that they are eventually going to get sued if they keep breaking the law.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 10/08/2025 14:20

Will they still wave the trans flag of victimhood and oppression and arrest kind old ladies who point out truth?

RareGoalsVerge · 10/08/2025 14:27

Overall brilliant news but I don't think it's helpful to headline it as "humiliating". I don't want people to feel humiliated about working out how to actually obey the law. I want them to feel accepted, appreciated and understood. For them to be able to internalise a narrative of "I misunderstood the law before, now it has been clarified and I understand" rather than "I fought this and lost" - remembering that most people aren't actually TRAs, they just want to do the right thing and made an easy and forgivable mistake when seeking out what the right thing was.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/08/2025 20:39

RareGoalsVerge · 10/08/2025 14:27

Overall brilliant news but I don't think it's helpful to headline it as "humiliating". I don't want people to feel humiliated about working out how to actually obey the law. I want them to feel accepted, appreciated and understood. For them to be able to internalise a narrative of "I misunderstood the law before, now it has been clarified and I understand" rather than "I fought this and lost" - remembering that most people aren't actually TRAs, they just want to do the right thing and made an easy and forgivable mistake when seeking out what the right thing was.

‘An easy and forgivable mistake when seeking out what the right thing was’?! Was putting rapists in prison with women ‘easy and forgivable’? Was Sturgeon calling women who understand the material reality of biological sex homophobic, bigoted, racists, ‘easy and forgivable’? Is what they’ve put Sandie Peggie through ‘easy and forgivable’?!

It isn’t ‘easy and forgivable’ to pretend you don’t know the difference between men and women, it’s regressive, misogynistic and harmful to vulnerable young people, some of whom have been butchered by so called ‘gender affirming care’, I’m not falling over myself to forgive anyone who has participated in that.

NHSFifeSadTimes · 10/08/2025 22:44

Absolutely! I will not be rushing to forgive those who suddenly switch sides now they realise there are elections coming up and women’s rights are back on the agenda.

Sturgeon did her best to obliterate womens rights and suffragettes at the alter of trans ideology. Most of the SNP and others sided with her in a witch hunt.

SidewaysOtter · 10/08/2025 23:44

Generally I’m all for golden bridges. But not when it comes to the organisations that were complicit in the harassment, demonisation and sometimes criminalisation of women who were defending their legally held rights.

In those cases there needs to be a massive fucking acknowledgement that they were in the wrong, helpfully accompanied by an equally massive fucking apology.

Igmum · 17/08/2025 08:49

Well said Otter. Hopefully this radical let’s-obey-the-law idea will also be taken up by the other Police forces so we can go back to policing without fear or favour.

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