Almost half of people arrested in NI for last summer’s race riots had been reported for domestic abuse

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Almost half of those arrested in connection with race-related disorder that broke out in Belfast last summer had previously been reported to police for domestic abuse.

In data revealed by investigative journalism website The Detail, out of 48 people arrested in relation to the disorder in August 2024, 23 had been reported to the PSNI over domestic abuse.

The 48% figure is higher than the average for the UK, which stands at 41%.

The UK average relating to those arrested over race-related disorder from the end of July through to August 5 2024, who had also been previously reported for domestic abuse, was revealed last month by The Guardian.

Full article at https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/almost-half-of-people-arrested-in-north-for-last-summers-race-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse-ZKWKVCC6IFFM3C23PKXGYIRNMQ/

Only half?

I wondered this and nearly all news articles talk about people, until it came to court cases. And just taking a quick google dip not many women seem to have been charged and of them some were for inciting online.

Accept for a few like this! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c201e9qq9g6o

This article was published a few days ago and has more of a breakdown on the link to domestic abusers. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

A thread about VAWG in NI.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4944043-51-16yos-in-ni-believe-vawg-is-common-there

I posted this item which I’d recently read about the association of domestic abuse with drug use.

A number of police forces have been drug testing individuals arrested for domestic abuse offences as part of a pilot to establish perpetrator profiles and offender rehabilitation opportunities to protect victims.
Anecdotally, the use of cocaine and alcohol have been highlighted as exacerbating factors in domestic abuse offences, and the results from pilots in seven police forces have demonstrated significant evidence to support this. In one area, nearly 85 per cent (127/150) of domestic abuse offenders arrested and drug tested, were positive for cocaine and/or opiates and overall across the pilot forces, 59 per cent of those tested were positive for cocaine and/or opiates.
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Farah Nazeer is Chief Executive of Women’s Aid. She said:

“Domestic abuse is driven by the perpetrator’s desire for power and control, as well as by the inequality between men and women, and it is important to remember that drugs, including cocaine, do not cause domestic abuse.

“However, as demonstrated by this study, there is a link between domestic abuse and drug use, which can make pre-existing violence and abuse more severe. This study highlights that we need to understand how other forms of harm, such as drugs, interlink with domestic abuse - and how this can help improve protection and support for survivors.”

https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/police-pilots-find-high-levels-of-drug-use-in-domestic-abuse-offenders

I have to wonder about the crossover of drugs and the history of domestic abuse with the men who feature in these riots and similar events that feature violence.

These riots were also about the rights of Irish thugs to deal drugs to youngsters, as opposed to Bulgarian and Romanian thugs.

Underneath all the hand ringing about immigrants and our poor children, this is about drug money, and who gets to make it

One of the Rotherham rioters - transmitted an STD to a 12 year old : https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/jailed-rotherham-rioter-gave-std-to-12-year-old-girl-at-his-flat-5251118

I have a long list of men arrested for rioting last year who had previously been convicted for offences against women and girls. So much for protecting women and girls against immigrants.

Oh this has been the elephant in the room with ALL the populist “outrage” about immigrants and VAWG. Where is the outrage about VAWG when it’s perpetrated by the majority population? Tumbleweeds, excuses, and deflection.

Its not nearly half the protesters being perpetrators of domestic violence, or child abusers or drug dealers. Its a large proportion of the people who are violent at the protests.

It was the same when there was a lot of violence at football matches - violent men are drawn to places where they think can be violent. But the majority of people at the matches just wanted to see the game.

These men must know that there's a good chance they will be arrested behaving that way at the protests, but obviously arent bothered about the consequences. We need to look at the sentencing for domestic abusers because it isnt a deterrent to change.

No, women were also arrested and charged.

Show your work. Because I don’t believe you’re right. There is a clear correlation between VAWG and other forms of violence. The terrorism link is very clear. If it was a stand alone statistical fishing trip, maybe. But as part of a meta analysis of this type of event, I think it’s significant.

Thanks for the depressing link to this story.

I had seen the headline and just 12 years old and STD made me boil with rage, but couldn't find more about it.

Members of Justice for Innocent Men Scotland made the twisted claim that female survivors of beasts’ abuse use their ordeal to find “fame” or “make money”.

Among their conspiracies are that convicted sexual abusers are victims of miscarriages of justice while men are being locked up to break up families and “decrease the birth rate”.

Rape survivor Ellie Wilson, 27, told how she has been labelled an attention seeker by the activists on social media.

She hit out: “They are a rapist rights group. They claim they’re fighting for innocent men but there are no criteria for which men they support.

"They blanketly don’t accept courts’ rulings and will never accept a man’s guilt if he’s tried under the Scottish courts under our current laws.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/15184742/jims-rapist-rights-group-ellie-wilson-scotland/

Justice for Innocent Men
https://www.jimsscotland.org/

(Sorry this doesn't really fit in here, but wanted to post on FWR, but didn't want to give them the publicity of being a thr

Fucking Hell, could those sickening bastards actually sink any lower?

This. Is a man who attacks police officers, smashes up public property etc more or less likely to be violent in general?

Answer is obvious. Bunch of thugs.

Ive said this before on many a thread, when people say that men who are violent to women 'wouldnt do the same to a man' - yes they would, they are generally violent thugs in society, violent and criminals.

Can we deport the majority population? Was giving them access to their victim an active and political choice by the government? Sadly we are stuck with homegrown scum, that doesn’t mean we should further increase the risk.

The two are separate issues. Where I lived the local bank glass front was smashed and red paint thrown all over to protest about Gaza. That doesn’t mean the Gaza protests are inherently wrong, just that violent people will always be attracted to ways to be yobbos. This is no different.

Most violence is male on male so yes they absolutely would.

Giving them access to their victim an active political choice by government : welcome to Feminism & Women’s Rights. Read the “Break it Down For Me” thread (you’re a latecomer, clearly). Feel free to stay around and learn something.

No, not a latecomer. I see this as no different to an early release prisoner reoffending - ultimately responsible for their actions, but the government must be held to account for making an active decision to enable them.

That's what I wanted to clarify:

'The 48% figure is higher than the average for the UK, which stands at 41%.'

Surely to.god this isn't true? Can someone expand on this stat? Do they mean 41% of men arrested, maybe?

Thanks. Makes more sense. Badly phrased.

I rec 'Home Grown' by Joan Smith on the proven links between dv and terrorism.

Videos posted on the Belfast Nightwatch First Division Facebook page show the groups walking the streets at night.

In some of the videos there are angry confrontations with men who appear to be from minority ethnic backgrounds.

Standing outside what is confirmed as a HMO, a man who appears to be from the Nightwatch group advises that a ethnic minority man would be better staying home at night because he was “seen out on the street causing suspicious activity”.

“His best move,” the Nightwatch member said, was to “head home and stay off the streets at night” as there are teams patrolling “because there are that many undocumented men coming into this country”.

He challenges a white man in the doorway asking why he’s happy to “live with five undocumented men”.

Almost half of those arrested for race hate disorder in Belfast last August had previously been reported to the PSNI for domestic abuse.
Police data, obtained through a freedom of information (FOI) request by investigative website The Detail, highlights a significant overlap between public violent disorder and domestic violence.

Mr Smyth added: “Following on from the story showing half of those arrested for race riots ere reported for domestic abuse, it’s important to know who these people are and have they got criminal records?

“I’m concerned about the aggression being displayed in these videos.

“I believe the police are looking into it. The police and the rule of law can’t be undermined, especially in a post-conflict society.”
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-will-not-tolerate-vigilante-activity-as-online-videos-show-group-confronting-people-in-east-belfast/a748049083.html