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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBTIQ friendly hotel

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RainSoakedNights · 31/07/2025 21:24

Just got our tickets for our holiday through, and they state quite a few times that this holiday is “LGBTIQ friendly”

What is this all about? I actually can’t wrap my head around it

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Lovelyview · 02/08/2025 13:06

helluvatime · 02/08/2025 11:49

Whilst not wanting to say that discrimination exists in Italy - it does - I think the "LGBTQI+ friendly" labelling is definitely having a bit of a moment. I went to a little mountain refuge / restaurant (just for food, no beds) and they advertised themselves as LGBTQ+ friendly on Google maps. I think it might be something businesses tick on Google maps that now shows up whereas before there wasnt that option?

Interestingly on google maps businesses have the option to tick both LGBTQI friendly and trans friendly for some reason.

Hungryhippa · 02/08/2025 13:07

Italy is one of the places that put me off international travel for a while because of blatent homophobia.

We had a run of bad experiences in hotels (especially resort types) of people not just side eyeing our rooms but out right hassling us, making horrendous remarks

I now check resorts etc have reviews from same sex couples. It ranges from a need/ not wanting to be moved to single rooms but tolerating the clear judgment and going "incognito" to sometimes wanting a resort where two mums can out right exist with their family.

Its very rare to find a country where you can act like other couples eg hold hands, have a peck on the lips etc on a romantic get away. There is very much an emphasis on acting completely platonic, which is actually surprisingly uncomfortable for a married couple

I assume lone females also often search for places that don't have a high prevalence of leary men and have reviews from sole women

Think yourself lucky if you dont see a need for it

Our worst experience was in a hotel complex I had previously been to with family, and my wider family still go to but was completely uncomfortable for us having to be on guard.

Brainworm · 02/08/2025 13:11

It is become ever more transparent that the era of identity is beginning to eat itself.

In my work with children and young people, they are increasingly calling for a holistic-framing of events rather than an identity-centric framing of events, and expressing exhaustion from all the impositions that come with social justice and identity politics. They are saying things like no one should want anyone to ‘take the knee’, every human should treat others with dignity and respect and expect the same in return. When it comes to trans issues, they are saying that no-one should demand others use certain pronouns, but everyone should make a concerted effort to make those around them feel comfortable.

It seems that they are fed up of the oppression olympics and don’t have an appetite for backing anyone team. They just want everyone to rub along without drama!

Hungryhippa · 02/08/2025 13:17

Note there will inevitably be comments about how you can definitely be gay and just not tell anyone because why does it have to be blatent?

Those people will not have felt their stomach drop when their kid talks about their mum's to staff, when your hands brush in public because sometimes you might hold hands, stand close together, not want to pretend to be sisters, share a bed, obviously share things like bank accounts, share food or general have the non physical intimacy of interaction that seperates a romantic couple from friends.

People assume that it's because we want to snog each other or dry hump in public, but don't realise how visible relationships are (because it doesn't represent a threat when the same things happen in a hetro relationship). People will just say that it's completely normal to stand 6 foot away from your spouse at all times, never touch in a close way, and act like buisness partners and never seem like they might be a couple that likes one another

ThreeWordHarpy · 02/08/2025 14:43

Hungryhippa · 02/08/2025 13:17

Note there will inevitably be comments about how you can definitely be gay and just not tell anyone because why does it have to be blatent?

Those people will not have felt their stomach drop when their kid talks about their mum's to staff, when your hands brush in public because sometimes you might hold hands, stand close together, not want to pretend to be sisters, share a bed, obviously share things like bank accounts, share food or general have the non physical intimacy of interaction that seperates a romantic couple from friends.

People assume that it's because we want to snog each other or dry hump in public, but don't realise how visible relationships are (because it doesn't represent a threat when the same things happen in a hetro relationship). People will just say that it's completely normal to stand 6 foot away from your spouse at all times, never touch in a close way, and act like buisness partners and never seem like they might be a couple that likes one another

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I’m appalled that you are still having to experience this and am obviously in a bubble because same sex couples/parents are so normalised in my world.

I mean, I’d be appalled if trans people were treated like that too, for all my sex realist values. I (try to) form my opinions on people based on what they say and what they do, not who they are. @Brainworm I hope the young people that you work with truly are showing the future. Treat every person with dignity, respect and courtesy and do your best to rub along together - it’s not a new message, I think that chap Jesus used to say something similar 2000 years ago. I suppose the challenge remains on how to deal with people who a) don’t treat others well and/or b) demand an undeserved higher level of consideration than anyone else.

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