Mary Ann Stephenson confirmed chair of EHRC

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This is good news 😁

www.gov.uk/government/news/government-confirms-dr-mary-ann-stephenson-as-the-next-ehrc-chair

hopefully Stonewall is starting to realise it has lost a lot of support over their actions. Like some politicians they didn’t realise how much push back they would actually receive from the general public.

It’s weird.

If she had been a known trans supporter, does anyone really think they would have objected to her? I bet it’s only wrong to have an opinion on the subject if it clashes with the opinions of the protestors.

Its highly unlikely that anyone would not have a discoverable opinion on the subject one way or the other.

Typical 🙄 a couple of blokes stating how women should think and feel. Got an overblown sense of their own importance. The usual echo chamber. Interesting that again it is a middle class thing - media, lawyers, doctors …..

I've just had a look at the news section of the Stonewall site. In recent weeks:

• They're plugging their rebrand new strategic approach
• They're plugging a scheme called "Proud Employers", which sounds like "not Diversity Champions honest guv"
• They're plugging a conversion therapy storyline on Corrie, which I'm sure they consulted on
• They're issuing various responses to the EHRC draft guidance and other developments downstream of the SC ruling, which are remarkably moderate in tone compared to what they would have said a year ago

As far as I can see, they haven't said a word about this appointment.

It looks like the new guy in charge has realised - though he won't openly say so - that the previous regime overplayed their hand and lost a lot of goodwill, and wants to get back to the traditional Stonewall approach of striking a positive tone and making friends.

Which means they're still doing TRA stuff, but quietly moving away from the openly mad element.

the erosion of rights and state capture of regulatory bodies cannot be normalised.

All the irony meters in the world just exploded.

'escaping UK'?
Where are living, Soviet Russia?

The word unhinged has just sprung to mind, can't think why.

On one level we need to be careful we aren't helping to spread info about groups there are just two men and their egos.

But of course the real worry is that the media, both main stream and social, often then quote groups like this as evidence of some massive movement.

But do not for instance, taking into account the number of members and contributions, anything from FWR on MN.

I wonder if any one has actually tallied up the number of women's groups / activists compated to TRA ones.

But as usual in a patriarcal society men (even though they claim to be women) get and are given more attention and respect than women.

If would be nice not to have our time misdirected by men setting the agenda.

For instance does anyone think we should show support for MAS, or as some of us have tried to do, get the WEC censored for their behaviour, and personal vendettas.

Very interesting post @SionnachRuadh

I was wondering where Stonewall goes from here. I had hoped that they might start fighting for the rights of same sex couples in countries that don't have the rights they do in the UK, but apparently sadly not.

It’s also only been around about 5 minutes 😂

It's a bit like the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, which has issued a "red flag" warning for the UK folling the SC ruling. Incurious people might think the Lemkin Institute is something that's an accepted authority, and maybe has something to do with Raphael Lemkin, instead of a website that was started by two activists with a laptop a couple of years ago.

I yield to no woman in my contempt for what Amnesty has become, but at least it's got a history, it's done lots of good in the past, and that gives it some inherited credibility. It's not two zealots with a Wordpress blog.

That sounds to me like an excellent idea, and exactly what they should be putting their resources towards.

Seriously? How ridiculous these people are 🙄

The number of outfits with 'institute', 'council' and 'college' in their names which are run out of someone's back bedroom, and are based on a laptop and a filing cabinet, is quite startling.

I always check them out now, ever since I wondered how the author of an article shared the same surname as the name of her institution. She'd started it, and it wasn't a 'college', it was her private business.

I once cold-called a newish and very authoritative-sounding think tank who had been advertising for help/contributors, when I was at a low point in my old job and thinking this might be a possible career avenue for me.

I remember asking normal job questions about their structure, how large their teams were, etc. The guy just kind of sheepishly scoffed at me: “I’m not sure this is really … that sort of organisation”.

I cringe now that I realise what all that front was probably hiding!

Is there a link anywhere to an explanation of the Lemkin astroturfing group? It’s a beloved claim on Reddit/Bluesky.

I hesitate to cite Wikipedia, but nowhere else seems to have anything about its history. It really does seem to be two activists with a website who appropriated Lemkin's name.

Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention - Wikipedia

Thank you! I see that relatives of Lemkin object to the use of his name.

Honestly, the way the TRAs solemnly (sp?) refer to that place, as though it weren't just a couple of pompous, grifting guys. They even appropriated the name!

It looks like they were pompous grifting women, rather than guys. Presuming the female names are actually female people.

Not sure! Either way, the pomposity and self-importance on that website is off the scale. So you can see why I assumed they were men 😆

From the Wiki entrey:
The Lemkin Institute aims to identify genocide as a process that can be categorized into ten patterns, rather than as a single event. This framework makes its definition broader than the one found the 1948 Genocide Convention.[4] An eight-step approach to analysis aims to identify genocide in its early stages. The institute defines eleven principles for genocide prevention.[5] The institute considers that genocide can happen to groups everywhere and that it is everyone's responsibility to work to resist it.[6]

So genocide is anything the 'Lemkin' Institute says it is? very useful for them.

So the new modus operandi will be:

1. Refuse utterly to interact with EHRC, meet with them or contribute to their consultations.
2. Complain that the EHRC talks and listens to Sex Matters and not to you.

Um...

Something none of these people had a problem with when it was only genderists who had a seat at the EHRC etc table.

hate boner
A phrase to add the list containing (or not) 'Schrödinger's genitals'