Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Clifford Chance in hot water over trans podcast

18 replies

Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 24/07/2025 19:17

City law firm is facing questions after a podcast it hosted featured a trans activist calling Supreme Court judges ‘f*ing idiots’

Taken from the Daily Telegraph
In a salutary tale for all large law firms that hitch their wagons to arguably fashionable social issues, Tiernan Brady, Clifford Chance’s head of “global inclusion policies”, is facing questions over why the firm allowed its offices to host a “trans-activist” podcast.

Clifford Chance has told Times Law this week that “we do not condone the comments … nor the manner in which they were made by individuals at this event”. (Oops Clifford Chance trying to save the day)

It is a smaller canvas, but parallels can be drawn between Clifford Chance’s predicament and that of the BBC over its Glastonbury broadcasting…..

Clifford Chance is just one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate. Indeed, law firms have not been alone — and cynics might argue that they have merely been slavishly trailing after their corporate clients.
That approach is all well and good while it enhances law firm bottom lines, but the mood among corporate clients and their law firms has been changing since Donald Trump moved back into the White House in January.

https://apple.news/A5bDgXk5NTKeNGPnHGwADTw

All very well eating to be seen as trendy but when the mood of customers and the public changes it might end up hitting their bottom line.

Clifford Chance in hot water over trans podcast — The Times and The Sunday Times

One of London’s “magic circle” law firms recently hosted a podcast in which the UK’s Supreme Court judges were described as “f***ing idiots” for their recent ruling on transgenderism. In a salutary tale for all large law firms that hitch their wagons t...

https://apple.news/A5bDgXk5NTKeNGPnHGwADTw

OP posts:
eurochick · 24/07/2025 19:50

Trying to look so open-minded their brains have fallen out…

Absentmindedsmile · 24/07/2025 19:57

Oh. Dear. Cancellation coming..

Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 24/07/2025 20:23

With partners netting about £2million they may be worried that Brady, who has posted on LinkedIn his explanation of the philosophy behind his role at Clifford Chance, which is nothing if not a paean to contemporary jargon, may actually start to hit their pay packet in the future. Or maybe their clients are all very woke and true believers.

OP posts:
AnSolas · 24/07/2025 21:09

Rude defamation by publication of sitting Judges.

Akward😬

Hummm ..is Idiot still a legal classification 🦧

Slothtoes · 24/07/2025 21:25

one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate.

Er… so you don’t think sex and race equality and the climate crisis (btw it’s not a ‘debate’) are progressive, or socially responsible?

Is that you Donald..?

AnSolas · 24/07/2025 21:54

Slothtoes · 24/07/2025 21:25

one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate.

Er… so you don’t think sex and race equality and the climate crisis (btw it’s not a ‘debate’) are progressive, or socially responsible?

Is that you Donald..?

Is this them??
Have a look at the filing

https://gender-pay-gap.service.gov.uk/employers/3366/reporting-year-2023#:~:text=Main%20gender%20pay%20gap%20figures,compared%20with%2068.1%25%20of%20men

CLIFFORD CHANCE LONDON LIMITED gender pay gap report for 2023-24 reporting year

https://gender-pay-gap.service.gov.uk/employers/3366/reporting-year-2023#:~:text=Main%20gender%20pay%20gap%20figures,compared%20with%2068.1%25%20of%20men

myplace · 24/07/2025 22:01

That’s appalling. Progressive causes, but not progressive themselves.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/07/2025 22:05

Talk is cheap. I would be so much more impressed by organisations that took on the slow, difficult work of making it easier for people with disabilities to stay in work, or really reducing the hours all employees work so that those with caring responsibilities don't stand out like sore thumbs by their inability to work round the clock. So much easier, cheaper and in the long run totally pointless to wave around the progress flag and sponsor a float at Pride.

Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 24/07/2025 22:20

Slothtoes · 24/07/2025 21:25

one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate.

Er… so you don’t think sex and race equality and the climate crisis (btw it’s not a ‘debate’) are progressive, or socially responsible?

Is that you Donald..?

It was a quote from the Daily Telegraph article that I linked. Not sure if Donald has time to write for the DT but you could ask.

OP posts:
Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 24/07/2025 22:21

myplace · 24/07/2025 22:01

That’s appalling. Progressive causes, but not progressive themselves.

Yep that’s Clifford Chance. If you have a penis you probably get paid more.

OP posts:
Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 24/07/2025 22:26

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/07/2025 22:05

Talk is cheap. I would be so much more impressed by organisations that took on the slow, difficult work of making it easier for people with disabilities to stay in work, or really reducing the hours all employees work so that those with caring responsibilities don't stand out like sore thumbs by their inability to work round the clock. So much easier, cheaper and in the long run totally pointless to wave around the progress flag and sponsor a float at Pride.

They have loads of money to spend on ‘green washing’ etc. No budgets to worry about, but they made a boo-boo with the podcast. Trying to hard to be trendy might make life difficult for them in front of some judges. But I guess nothing that can’t be smoothed over with a few posh lunches/dinners/sports event hospitality sessions.

OP posts:
BundleBoogie · 24/07/2025 22:42

Trans activism is such a gift for all those men that hate women.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/07/2025 08:02

Slothtoes · 24/07/2025 21:25

one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate.

Er… so you don’t think sex and race equality and the climate crisis (btw it’s not a ‘debate’) are progressive, or socially responsible?

Is that you Donald..?

Sex equality clearly isn’t important to them though is it? They talk the talk but unfortunately they don’t walk the walk.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/07/2025 08:02

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/07/2025 22:05

Talk is cheap. I would be so much more impressed by organisations that took on the slow, difficult work of making it easier for people with disabilities to stay in work, or really reducing the hours all employees work so that those with caring responsibilities don't stand out like sore thumbs by their inability to work round the clock. So much easier, cheaper and in the long run totally pointless to wave around the progress flag and sponsor a float at Pride.

This ⬆️

Slothtoes · 25/07/2025 08:20

Not in any way denying or shocked by the obvious raging hypocrisy at a captured major employer here.
Nor denying the hypocritical adoption of genderist politics. which is at heart is deeply sexist, misogynistic often racist, always homophobic, being a men’s sexual rights and men’s sexual access campaign.

It just shocks me that anyone can put a negative movement of that kind, into the exact same bucket with tackling sexism, racism or tacking the climate emergency. Chalk and cheese

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/07/2025 08:34

I can’t read the article, which TRA(s) did they do the podcast with?

Lyingonthefloor · 25/07/2025 08:39

Clifford Chance, and the other big city law firms, pay their lawyers huge salaries, but in return they expect total devotion to work and ridiculous working hours. The culture is aggressive and demanding. If a woman wants a life outside work, let alone children, it is a very challenging environment to work in.

As a result, many many women would not even consider working for such a firm, and many leave for jobs in less well paid roles/less prestigious firms where it is possible to have both a career and a life/kids etc.

That's why the gender (sic) pay gap stats are so damning, firms like Clifford Chance probably recruit a more or less equal number of male and female trainees, but for women to progress up the ranks the odds are stacked against them.

For those firms, it is so easy to claim to celebrate diversity and inclusion by latching onto the trans cause. It doesn't cost them anything. They don't have to allow people to work sensible hours, or let women take maternity leave, or change their workplace culture to be more inclusive to the actual people (women) that they consistently exclude.

And, what's more, if they can get some trans identified men recorded as women their gender (sic) pay gap stats will improve and they won't even need to worry about them getting pregnant.

Trans rights activism is an absolute gift to firms like this.

EvelynBeatrice · 25/07/2025 09:07

Slothtoes · 24/07/2025 21:25

one of many large law firms that has over the past decade embraced a range of so-called progressive and socially responsible causes — ranging from gender identity to sex and race equality and the climate crisis debate.

Er… so you don’t think sex and race equality and the climate crisis (btw it’s not a ‘debate’) are progressive, or socially responsible?

Is that you Donald..?

Many women in large professional services organisations are sick to the back teeth of all this ‘woke washing’. It’s sheer hypocrisy.

At the same time as claiming to stand for equality and integrity, these large entities continue to do all they can to achieve their only objective - increased profitability- at all costs, including opening offices in regimes where women have few human rights and certainly no equality ( don’t see any banners or internal campaigns against that), gay people are criminalised and persecuted and where there is no religious freedom. This at the same time as ignoring the most prevalent form of discrimination in these firms - maternity discrimination.

The huge investment in AI products - again in an attempt to reduce longterm human capital and increase profits - is being shown to have hugely adverse environmental impact as today’s news reports show.

Many law firms with the most ‘right on’ credentials, were very quick to seek Slapp orders and non disclosure agreements from abused women.

We continue to see large banks and other financial institutions engage in money laundering and facilitation of financial crime, despite enormous fines.

So forgive us if we feel that these bodies ought to put their own houses in order before lecturing the rest of us …further, perhaps they could just stick to what they’re supposed to do - making profits and paying taxes.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread