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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Health inequalities - disproportionately affect women.

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PeonyPatch · 17/07/2025 18:26

“Waiting list for gynaecology is the biggest.

And women make up a higher proportion of those waiting (57%), compared to men, in all cases where sex is recorded.”

This article got me thinking… where does this leave those who identify as a gender other than what is assigned at birth?

I’ve always wondered where in the gynaecology world they would fit in and how that affects statistics.

Also this shows that health inequalities affect biological women disproportionately particularly in the case of gynaecology, and particularly in deprived areas. I think this is a far more concerning and important issue than some trans issues.

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PeonyPatch · 17/07/2025 18:26

Article is:

Health inequalities - disproportionately affect women.
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NebulousDogWhistleIsReality · 17/07/2025 19:06

Well sex is observed quite often before birth.

Women's health care funding will be adversely affected by including trans identifying men in any data gathering that categorises them as "women" along with biological females because they won't be using the services that women need.

Over time data would show that an increased population of "women" were decreasingly using the health care services provided for them, and therefore less money will be allocated to them.

We can't protect women's services, spaces, rights, funding, health care etc if we cannot retain that category for our biological sex without the inclusion of male bodied people.

And finally, women are capable of caring about and dealing with more than one issue at a time.

Lyingonthefloor · 17/07/2025 23:30

How are you going to have a hope in hell of improving women's health care if you don't keep accurate statistics about sex? How can you keep accurate statistics about sex if instead of data about sex you collect muddled, scientifically illiterate data about "gender"? How will data be meaningful if it depends on self identification of sex?

The so called "trans" issue is not really that: it's a women's rights issue. The reason feminists, many of whom are here on Mumsnet, talk about this stuff is not because we've not got any better things to do, it's because it is absolutely crucial to ensuring positive changes, such as those needed to women's healthcare, can be made.

If you don't understand what sex is, or if you refuse to define it accurately, you can't tackle sexism.

PeonyPatch · 18/07/2025 05:22

Lyingonthefloor · 17/07/2025 23:30

How are you going to have a hope in hell of improving women's health care if you don't keep accurate statistics about sex? How can you keep accurate statistics about sex if instead of data about sex you collect muddled, scientifically illiterate data about "gender"? How will data be meaningful if it depends on self identification of sex?

The so called "trans" issue is not really that: it's a women's rights issue. The reason feminists, many of whom are here on Mumsnet, talk about this stuff is not because we've not got any better things to do, it's because it is absolutely crucial to ensuring positive changes, such as those needed to women's healthcare, can be made.

If you don't understand what sex is, or if you refuse to define it accurately, you can't tackle sexism.

This is what I believe too…

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deadpan · 18/07/2025 11:25

It's dangerous to tell people they've changed sex or that as it was assigned they can effectively choose their sex, because of sex specific illness like prostate cancer and reproductive issues. Also many unisex illnesses present different symptoms depending on your sex.

PeonyPatch · 18/07/2025 11:41

That’s what I think as well. What if that person who changed sex was in a medical emergency and unconscious.

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PeonyPatch · 18/07/2025 11:43

Lyingonthefloor · 17/07/2025 23:30

How are you going to have a hope in hell of improving women's health care if you don't keep accurate statistics about sex? How can you keep accurate statistics about sex if instead of data about sex you collect muddled, scientifically illiterate data about "gender"? How will data be meaningful if it depends on self identification of sex?

The so called "trans" issue is not really that: it's a women's rights issue. The reason feminists, many of whom are here on Mumsnet, talk about this stuff is not because we've not got any better things to do, it's because it is absolutely crucial to ensuring positive changes, such as those needed to women's healthcare, can be made.

If you don't understand what sex is, or if you refuse to define it accurately, you can't tackle sexism.

That’s how I feel as well @Lyingonthefloor
I feel quite despairing about it if I’m honest. I suffer from PCOS 🙁

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