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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

‘The Trans Rights Alliance has put forward Steph Richards, a transgender woman in possession of a GRC, as its candidate for women’s officer’

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frazzled1 · 09/07/2025 08:16

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/1942664345759940722

Labour’s Trans Rights Alliance puts male forward to be women’s officer. 🙄

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/1942664345759940722

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TheOtherRaven · 10/07/2025 12:56

Mochudubh · 10/07/2025 08:17

If they are a Trans group within labour, the majority if not all the members of which will be trans, wouldn't it be perfectly legal to have a post of "Transwomen's Officer" only open to TW and "Transmen's Officer" only open to transmen?

Why would they not just do that?

Hmmm,🤔

Edited

No no no this goes:

You have a trans officer (who is trans)

You have an LGBT+ officer (who is trans)

and a women's officer (who is trans)

Mysteriously, all three will be male.

And be interested in NOTHING at any time other than themselves trans issues.

And this is somehow supposed to be ok.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/07/2025 13:24

Exactly @TheOtherRaven all “trans” all the time.

Helleofabore · 15/07/2025 16:16

Well, looking at this link, it seems like this is significant.

https://labour.org.uk/resources/supreme-court-judgment-faqs/

Can we operate an All Women Shortlist (AWS) for our upcoming selection process?

The Party can use single sex shortlists lawfully only when biological women are underrepresented among the Party’s current cohort in the relevant legislative body. For example, the AWS provisions in the Rule Book may only be applied in local government selections where the Labour group is not currently comprised of a majority of biological women.

Can we include trans women in an AWS?

The Supreme Court judgement has clarified that all-women shortlists must be single sex. This means that only biological women are eligible to apply for selections run on the basis of the AWS provisions in in the Rule Book.

Supreme Court Judgment FAQs – The Labour Party

Supreme Court Judgment: Frequently Asked Questions On 16 April 2025, the Supreme Court clarified that references to “women” in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological sex (meaning the sex of a person at birth), not gender. This means that certain sex...

https://labour.org.uk/resources/supreme-court-judgment-faqs/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 16:55

Wow, only took 8 years to get there!

Helleofabore · 15/07/2025 16:59

Yep!

CompleteGinasaur · 15/07/2025 17:06

Thats... pretty unequivocal. I'm actually kind of staggered!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 18:50

There are going to be some almighty tantrums…

Helleofabore · 15/07/2025 18:52

The extreme activists had already decided though that Starmer had abandoned them.

This is really just further fuel to that fire.

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 15/07/2025 18:58

Call me cynical but I get the feeling that we just won't see the use of all women short lists from now on. Just lists that happen by pure coincidence to contain actual women and trans women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 18:59

Pretty sure those are illegal.

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 15/07/2025 19:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 18:59

Pretty sure those are illegal.

How can a mixed sex short list be illegal?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 19:38

Mixed sex shortlists aren’t illegal, but any that was just women and “trans women” would be open to challenge from men.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2025 19:38

Other men, obvs.

borntobequiet · 15/07/2025 19:46

I bet some bonkers CLP is planning to test that rule right now.

DuesToTheDirt · 15/07/2025 20:20

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 15/07/2025 18:58

Call me cynical but I get the feeling that we just won't see the use of all women short lists from now on. Just lists that happen by pure coincidence to contain actual women and trans women.

The Scottish Greens have ditched their quotas as they were based on gender, not sex, and they refuse to acknowldge sex as a defining characteristic. "“As a proudly feminist party which recognises that trans women are women, and that non-binary people exist and are valid, it was never an option to adopt gender balancing measures which would erase these identities."

Feminist my arse.

www.holyrood.com/news/view,scottish-greens-abandon-genderbalance-quotas-after-supreme-court-ruling

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