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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hereditary titles are sexist - bit niche but...

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lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2025 21:30

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/22/gender-equality-in-hereditary-titles/

https://archive.ph/3DBOL

This bit

the bizarre status quo might mean that my elder sister, Lady Willa Franks, could be eligible to inherit his title if she chose to change her gender.

Does anyone want to break the news to her that the drafters of the GRA thought of this and wrote a clause that specifically prohibits women from leapfrogging male heirs by getting a GRC that gives them the legal fiction of a male sex.

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SerendipityJane · 24/06/2025 11:28

Scrumdiddlyumptiousness · 24/06/2025 10:32

Trans Rights Activists have not made a fuss about primogeniture because, at heart, they are just Men's Rights Activists.

Which is really odd, because as we know they love their big words

DeanElderberry · 24/06/2025 16:52

AlexandraLeaving · 23/06/2025 22:19

I rather liked the bit that read “Some 91 hereditary peers remain in the House of Lords, having inherited their titles because they have penises. Sir Keir Starmer wants to remove them altogether…”

😆 🍆❌ 😆

SerendipityJane · 24/06/2025 17:10

DeanElderberry · 24/06/2025 16:52

😆 🍆❌ 😆

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Eats shoots and leaves.

Grammarnut · 24/06/2025 23:39

parietal · 23/06/2025 21:55

it is bonkers that hereditary titles still only go to the male line. they have changed it for the royals, but if you are a minor duke or whatever, then only the younger brother (or 3rd cousin) get the title over an elder daughter. sexist nonsense.

It's not 'still' - up until the 16th century women in England did inherit hereditary titles. For example, John of Gaunt became Duke of Lancaster by marrying the Heiress, the Duchess Blanche. Richard Neville, the KIngmaker, was Earl of Warwick because he married the countess.

At this point one might say that in fact a man ran the show - but it was his wife's heirs (male or female) who inherited the title, he just happened to be the father and if he died without an heir, or with only daughters, and his widow remarried and had children/a son, then that child inherited, not a relative of her first husband.
Not all countries operate a salic law over titles e.g. Spain.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 24/06/2025 23:46

I’ve always liked the way the GRA shows that everyone knows who is a woman when it really matters, ie when pretending people can change sex would disadvantage a man.

They’re saying “Be serious now, you can’t let a woman take a man’s title, that’s taking this charade too far.”

Accidentally saying the quiet bit out loud.

I like it because it strips away the pretence that the GRA is anything other than a gift to men.

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