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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Skirt ban school accused of influence by TRAs

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hellooooooomama · 12/06/2025 21:01

Link to article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj93kljpdn9o

I bloody knew there was more to this. I applaud the parents for not holding back.

I have started a new thread because I felt the older one got completely derailed after a while.

I'll link it below anyway.

James Saunders, who has grey hair and is wearing glasses with black rims, standing outside the visitor entrance to Honywood School. The school is an orange brick building.

Honywood School head had 'personal attacks' over skirt ban

The head says some parents thought he was influenced by transgender activists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj93kljpdn9o

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 13/06/2025 11:17

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 09:10

I couldn't possibly know if those claims are evidenced or not. It just feels a bit too convenient not to be relevant iykwim.

And I do admire anyone who works in schools, I think it must be the hardest profession nowadays. But I think parents should be consulted on matters such as uniform.

So that would be a confession that you have made the entire thing up with absolutely no evidence? And decided to attack a headtecaher and school based on your own personal prejudices that have nothing at all to do with what actually happened.

I am not a TRA, but right now I am struggling to see how you are any different from those you are attacking. You are making wild claims and accusations based on not a shred of evidence.

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 11:47

I haven't made anything up. Did you read the article?

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Complet · 13/06/2025 11:59

JamieCannister · 13/06/2025 09:26

I think it should be more socially acceptable for girls and women to wear trousers in certain formal / social occasions, and more socially acceptable for boys and men to wear skirts and dresses.

BUT, I also think that a lot of the time males wear skirts it is 100% for attention (or worse) not for a better reason. And more importantly I think that males and females both look appalling in clothes designed for the opposite sex (and indeed they look appalling in clothes for their own sex if the style they choose is one that is not right for their particular body.)

If women and girls are going to wear trousers they need to be cut for (their type of) female body, and vice versa.

People should be able to wear what they want, no matter who the garment is aimed at. Women and men come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. I would say I have a pretty average figure (size 12, 1.6m), and I often find clothes aimed at men look good on me. I have to wear hi-vis trousers occasionally at work and I always opt for the men’s rather than the women’s as they look and feel much better.

I don’t think it matters if men wear skirts for attention. It has to start somewhere. Women caused a lot of attention when they started to wear trousers. If more men did the same then with skirts this would start to become normalised.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 13/06/2025 12:02

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 11:47

I haven't made anything up. Did you read the article?

Yes. I also read your title "Skirt ban school accused of influence by TRAs" - an accusation levied with no actual evidence by some anonymous parents issuing personal attacks - which you then posted as a goady title, going on to say "I bloody knew there was more to this" which was a clear statement that you believe that the ban was introduced because of infuence from TRA's - without a shred of evidence. Or did you perhaps mean some other "lobby group" were influential in the decision? Which one would that be then? What did you "bloody know"? Because, and I repeat it one last time - there is no evidence presented in this article or anywhere else that suggests the decision was influenced by anyone.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 13/06/2025 12:05

Complet · 13/06/2025 11:59

People should be able to wear what they want, no matter who the garment is aimed at. Women and men come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. I would say I have a pretty average figure (size 12, 1.6m), and I often find clothes aimed at men look good on me. I have to wear hi-vis trousers occasionally at work and I always opt for the men’s rather than the women’s as they look and feel much better.

I don’t think it matters if men wear skirts for attention. It has to start somewhere. Women caused a lot of attention when they started to wear trousers. If more men did the same then with skirts this would start to become normalised.

Thought you'd enjoy this...https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pit-brow-lasses-women-miners-victorian-britain-pants

The Women Miners in Pants Who Shocked Victorian Britain

"The article of clothing which women ought only to wear in a figure of speech."

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pit-brow-lasses-women-miners-victorian-britain-pants

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 12:14

Mm ok settle down Philippa. You've made your point. Maybe you can go and tell some other MNers off for not having 100% proof of whatever it is they're talking about.

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 13/06/2025 12:26

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 12:14

Mm ok settle down Philippa. You've made your point. Maybe you can go and tell some other MNers off for not having 100% proof of whatever it is they're talking about.

Now you want to be patronising because you have no rebuttal to the fact that you have made unevidenced attacks on a teacher and school? Says it all. No wonder you want me to go away. You do not respect those who teach at all - you disparage and denigrate those you choose to dislike based on nothing except your personal prejudices, dredging up wild and unevidenced allegations that are untrue to try to bolster your deluded accusations. Hatred is never a good look, no matter what you try to pin it on. Maybe you could spend some time looking for things that have actually happened before posting fictions that haven't?

hellooooooomama · 13/06/2025 12:27

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Dwimmer · 13/06/2025 13:08

Complet · 13/06/2025 11:59

People should be able to wear what they want, no matter who the garment is aimed at. Women and men come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. I would say I have a pretty average figure (size 12, 1.6m), and I often find clothes aimed at men look good on me. I have to wear hi-vis trousers occasionally at work and I always opt for the men’s rather than the women’s as they look and feel much better.

I don’t think it matters if men wear skirts for attention. It has to start somewhere. Women caused a lot of attention when they started to wear trousers. If more men did the same then with skirts this would start to become normalised.

Of course they shouldn’t. Fetish gear has no place in public and especially not in schools.

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