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Television ‘Please walk away from Harry Potter’: why the stars of HBO’s new TV show are in for decades of social media hell

149 replies

Rockhopper1 · 11/06/2025 18:07

Stuart Heritage has scribbled a ridiculous and slightly threatening article for the Guardian today under the above headline Such wilful misrepresentation of JK Rowling’s views after all this time can surely only be fuelled by misogyny?

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mum2jakie · 13/06/2025 08:28

Here's one "journalist" who I won't be sad to see lose his job to AI! At least AI has the potential to learn...

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/06/2025 08:35

sadmillenial · 12/06/2025 04:03

i dont understand this at all....

ive seen people on this same forum advocate for not watching Dr Who because they dont agree with Juno Dawson... Isnt this the same thing??

Aren't we all able to express views that include not partaking in some tv shows/theatre shows/films etc if we disagree? especially when its explicit that the writer/producer is funding legal challenges where people might not align?

There is nothing in that article calling for it to be banned! Its just putting across a point of view that you dont agree with.

I’ve never seen anyone on here advocating boycotting JD, I’m sure you have links? I personally wouldn’t watch anything written by him as he’s such a poor writer.

You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.

She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex.

Cattenberg · 13/06/2025 22:36

iamgoingthere · 12/06/2025 17:34

That’s because they think that their tiny corner is the centre of the whole universe. They can’t comprehend that most people couldn’t give a rat’s arse.

HP books and games are hugely popular worldwide (30% jump in sales last year), that will continue for a long time.

The activists are patheticly outnumbered.

Some of these activists spend a lot of time posting on social media and gathering followers, yet blocking anyone who disagrees with them. I saw one trans ally (a gay man) post that none of the women he knew had gender critical views. That's because you've blocked them all, mate.

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/06/2025 07:16

Bluesky actually sounds even more concentratedly toxic than twitter, and even more detached from reality.

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/06/2025 07:28

Has anyone been on Bluesky? What is it like?

sandgreen · 16/06/2025 09:15

Brilliant from Sarah Datum, thanks for sharing.

SecondWoman · 16/06/2025 09:22

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 11/06/2025 19:06

But will it land with them in the same way? If it's faithful to the original, it's going to be dated in the eyes of the children watching it for the first time - but not dated enough yet to be classed as a period piece; and not nostalgic to them, obviously, because they won't be old enough to remember that era.

What is it you’re imagine will be ‘dated’? The exchange rate of Galleons? Dress robe styles? The speed of the Floo network? Detentions involving corporal punishment?

SecondWoman · 16/06/2025 09:23

Definitelyrandom · 12/06/2025 10:05

Dreadful article but much in line with Stuart Heritage’s usual ones, which are either banal or annoying - and sometimes both at the same time. He wrote a rather banal and annoying book about the Frankfurt School a few years ago and this has possibly led him (erroneously) to believe that he is a public intellectual.

Oh, bless. I can’t begin to imagine.

SerafinasGoose · 16/06/2025 09:38

I'll suspend judgement on the new TV series until it's actually shot. I've only read two of the Harry Potter books and haven't seen any of the films at all, so have no comparator there. In any case, I prefer to judge things on the basis of their own merit. Just to say, the HBO adaptation of His Dark Materials a few years ago was wonderful.

That was a nasty, spiteful little article from the Guardian. Interesting that, now this tide is turning, those on this problematic side of history don't have to concern themselves with threats, intimidation or losing their livelihoods in the way those speaking up for women's rights have had to contend with.

As for Lineham, I wish him all the success in the world. I'll read and watch the work of whichever artists I choose. That I read TS Eliot does not make me a fascist simply because I like his work and he happened to hold those views. This lazy '"alignment" of politics' objection is past being tedious.

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 16/06/2025 17:06

SecondWoman · 16/06/2025 09:22

What is it you’re imagine will be ‘dated’? The exchange rate of Galleons? Dress robe styles? The speed of the Floo network? Detentions involving corporal punishment?

All the bits that take place in the non-magical world.

ItsCoolForCats · 16/06/2025 17:23

LOLing at the containment dome comment regarding Bluesky. And the comment about it being a mirror world where reality doesn't hold true is spot on. The problem is, if you immerse yourself in that kind of echo chamber, it is even more of a shock when things don't pan out as you expect them to

Michael Foran posted about why he doesn't think the case being taken to the ECtHR will succeed (basically that when determining the legal effects of gender recognition there is a wider margin of appreciation where the right of others are affected). They won't entertain this on Bluesky as they are so utterly convinced that the challenge will be successful.

MalinandGo · 16/06/2025 17:27

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 16/06/2025 17:06

All the bits that take place in the non-magical world.

Surely that’s basically the Dursleys? Which isn’t exactly rooted in realism anyway.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 16/06/2025 17:31

The only real.change in the muggle world is the lack of mobiles - which wizards/witches wouldn't be likely to engage with anyway (Mr Weasley is considered eccentric for his interest in muggle technology).

sadmillenial · 17/06/2025 01:35

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/06/2025 08:35

I’ve never seen anyone on here advocating boycotting JD, I’m sure you have links? I personally wouldn’t watch anything written by him as he’s such a poor writer.

You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.

She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex.

i dont think you're being fairly representative in your argument, i definitely have seen people on here call for Juno to be removed from her post (i dont have receipts, i could look back on posts but life is short...)

"You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.
She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex."

I can see that there is some misogyny in the response to Joanne Rowling (as there is with every woman with a public platform) but i really dont agree that the majority media coverage is 1) against her POV or 2) painting her as "uppity". In fact i think most mainstream media outlets amplify her voice.
If she was using her platform to fight for any other issue that affects women and girls i'd maybe have a more generous point of view, but she doesnt. She ONLY posts about trans people. NOTHING about the recent abortion legislation? NOTHING about the NI protests??

I think her backlash is mostly grassroots and from LGBTQ/Queer organisations who (in my mind rightfully) resent her constant tweeting of dog whistle scare stories and financial funding of overtly anti-trans cases without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?

MalinandGo · 17/06/2025 06:24

sadmillenial · 17/06/2025 01:35

i dont think you're being fairly representative in your argument, i definitely have seen people on here call for Juno to be removed from her post (i dont have receipts, i could look back on posts but life is short...)

"You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.
She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex."

I can see that there is some misogyny in the response to Joanne Rowling (as there is with every woman with a public platform) but i really dont agree that the majority media coverage is 1) against her POV or 2) painting her as "uppity". In fact i think most mainstream media outlets amplify her voice.
If she was using her platform to fight for any other issue that affects women and girls i'd maybe have a more generous point of view, but she doesnt. She ONLY posts about trans people. NOTHING about the recent abortion legislation? NOTHING about the NI protests??

I think her backlash is mostly grassroots and from LGBTQ/Queer organisations who (in my mind rightfully) resent her constant tweeting of dog whistle scare stories and financial funding of overtly anti-trans cases without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?

I’m not sure why you think one woman needs to be a spokesperson for all societal issues affecting women but her charitable trust gives out millions every year specifically to organisations working to protect women and girls. She also wholly funds a rape crisis centre. I’d say she’s done substantially more to combat VAWG than the average person.

volanttrust.org

TooSquaretobehip · 17/06/2025 06:31

sadmillenial · 17/06/2025 01:35

i dont think you're being fairly representative in your argument, i definitely have seen people on here call for Juno to be removed from her post (i dont have receipts, i could look back on posts but life is short...)

"You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.
She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex."

I can see that there is some misogyny in the response to Joanne Rowling (as there is with every woman with a public platform) but i really dont agree that the majority media coverage is 1) against her POV or 2) painting her as "uppity". In fact i think most mainstream media outlets amplify her voice.
If she was using her platform to fight for any other issue that affects women and girls i'd maybe have a more generous point of view, but she doesnt. She ONLY posts about trans people. NOTHING about the recent abortion legislation? NOTHING about the NI protests??

I think her backlash is mostly grassroots and from LGBTQ/Queer organisations who (in my mind rightfully) resent her constant tweeting of dog whistle scare stories and financial funding of overtly anti-trans cases without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?

She has spoken about abortion issues numerous times. You just haven't noticed.

I think it's sad that women are trying to tell other women what our priorities are. Some are involved in a special area of feminism. And that's ok.
And the cases she will be funding will not be 'anti-trans' but PRO-WOMEN. Calling it 'anti-trans' tells us everything about your agenda.

Everything she has posted is true and is referenced and backed up. So not at all 'dog whistle scare stories'.

Television ‘Please walk away from Harry Potter’: why the stars of HBO’s new TV show are in for decades of social media hell
Television ‘Please walk away from Harry Potter’: why the stars of HBO’s new TV show are in for decades of social media hell
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/06/2025 08:12

sadmillenial · 17/06/2025 01:35

i dont think you're being fairly representative in your argument, i definitely have seen people on here call for Juno to be removed from her post (i dont have receipts, i could look back on posts but life is short...)

"You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.
She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex."

I can see that there is some misogyny in the response to Joanne Rowling (as there is with every woman with a public platform) but i really dont agree that the majority media coverage is 1) against her POV or 2) painting her as "uppity". In fact i think most mainstream media outlets amplify her voice.
If she was using her platform to fight for any other issue that affects women and girls i'd maybe have a more generous point of view, but she doesnt. She ONLY posts about trans people. NOTHING about the recent abortion legislation? NOTHING about the NI protests??

I think her backlash is mostly grassroots and from LGBTQ/Queer organisations who (in my mind rightfully) resent her constant tweeting of dog whistle scare stories and financial funding of overtly anti-trans cases without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?

‘without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?’

Oh my goodness the ignorance of this post is breathtaking! So you haven’t bothered to look at Lumos, or Beira’s Place rape crisis centre, or the Volant Charitable Trust, all of which are set up to support women and girls and protect them against violence. What about the aircraft she chartered to get women out of Afghanistan? No? It’s estimated she has made £200 million worth of charitable donations, but sure, she’s a terrible person.

Before you come on here lecturing me and us about JK Rowling, at least educate yourself, because quite frankly, you’re embarrassing yourself.

MalinandGo · 17/06/2025 10:07

I would LOVE to know how much the many righteous thinking keyboard warriors, who shout loudly about the evils of JKR's wrong views on transwomen, have ever done on a practical basis to help women. Notwithstanding JKR's enormous wealth, which enables her to fund projects on a scale unachievable to most, how many of these people have done anything at all (financial/volunteering/political) to demonstrate their commitment to ending VAWG other than post into a social media echo chamber or below the line attacks?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 10:23

sadmillenial · 17/06/2025 01:35

i dont think you're being fairly representative in your argument, i definitely have seen people on here call for Juno to be removed from her post (i dont have receipts, i could look back on posts but life is short...)

"You cannot be naive enough to believe that the concerted, constant media coverage of JKR is anything other than a pathetic, spiteful attempt to bring her down because she’s a successful, intelligent, self made woman who supports women and girls. They want to shut her up and put her in her place.
She has started a fund to support women whose employers are breaking the law by discriminating against them for their protected views. It isn’t about ‘people not being aligned’, it’s about bullying women who understand the material reality of biological sex."

I can see that there is some misogyny in the response to Joanne Rowling (as there is with every woman with a public platform) but i really dont agree that the majority media coverage is 1) against her POV or 2) painting her as "uppity". In fact i think most mainstream media outlets amplify her voice.
If she was using her platform to fight for any other issue that affects women and girls i'd maybe have a more generous point of view, but she doesnt. She ONLY posts about trans people. NOTHING about the recent abortion legislation? NOTHING about the NI protests??

I think her backlash is mostly grassroots and from LGBTQ/Queer organisations who (in my mind rightfully) resent her constant tweeting of dog whistle scare stories and financial funding of overtly anti-trans cases without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?

You really have no idea.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 10:26

Like Ash Sarkar notoriously asking what Julie Bindel has ever done for women in prison.

https://x.com/bindelj/status/1053306433092100103

Merrymouse · 17/06/2025 10:33

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/06/2025 08:12

‘without also publicly funding other issues to help VAWG?’

Oh my goodness the ignorance of this post is breathtaking! So you haven’t bothered to look at Lumos, or Beira’s Place rape crisis centre, or the Volant Charitable Trust, all of which are set up to support women and girls and protect them against violence. What about the aircraft she chartered to get women out of Afghanistan? No? It’s estimated she has made £200 million worth of charitable donations, but sure, she’s a terrible person.

Before you come on here lecturing me and us about JK Rowling, at least educate yourself, because quite frankly, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Also support for charities that represent single parents, and funding of MS research. (MS research 3 times more common in women than men).

It's odd to know that her full name is 'Joanne', but to be unaware of her her fairly high profile charity work and campaigning over the years.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 10:36

I’d assume that poster is most familiar with her from Harry Potter and ranting TRA blogs.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/06/2025 10:41

Merrymouse · 17/06/2025 10:33

Also support for charities that represent single parents, and funding of MS research. (MS research 3 times more common in women than men).

It's odd to know that her full name is 'Joanne', but to be unaware of her her fairly high profile charity work and campaigning over the years.

I believe the TRA’s address her as Joanne because for some reason they think it annoys her, angry dad Maugham does it when he delivers a new lecture. They are so utterly juvenile it’s pitiable, as if addressing someone by their actual name is somehow besting them 🤦‍♀️

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