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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC again falsely attributing alleged crime of a male to a woman.

42 replies

Cailleach1 · 10/06/2025 16:01

Not to comment on the case itself as it is current. However, surely the BBC are spreading disinformation with lies like this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lk87qkzg4o

A two-floor gothic style building with green growing up its walls and three large windows at the top and large wooden doors on the ground floor. Two black cars are parked in front of the building next to grass.

Lincoln woman Zoe Watts accused of trying to make gun on 3D printer

Prosecutors claim Zoe Watts attempted to make the weapon to "sneak past law enforcement".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lk87qkzg4o

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Anzena · 10/06/2025 18:19

This is the BBC, Zoe Watts - a Trans Identified biological male with a GRC has been found guilty of..... HE is currently identifying baseball bats for future activities and is a former PC.

That's how to report it. Giz a job. 😊

Catiette · 10/06/2025 18:23

During the last election, a significant concern from many of us as voters was the potential for Labour to introduce self-ID. A key reason for our concern was transwomen's level of offending - comparable to that of males and far outweighing that of females. We know this only because we've worked to uncover it. The average voter doesn't know this. Articles like this actively obscure this information - that is, information that is necessary for women to participate fully in the democratic system, making decisions about their best interests. The BBC sickens me now.

But there's also simply the sheer offensiveness of attributing our word to men like this. To think that it's considered oppression for us to call them "he", while it's NOT oppression to force us to relinquish our one and only word specifically to embrace the oppressor class from whom we seek to distinguish ourselves. And that we're forced to do so even in the context of their worse excesses of violence against us, in a way that disguises said violence and attributes this main weapon that enables our oppression right back to us ourselves. By our national broadcaster. My stomach twists with the irony.

moto748e · 10/06/2025 22:10

Is this the worst (and most overt) yet from the BBC? How dare they lie to the public like that? Well, they can. And if a GRC is the reason for them being so coy, well, it hasn't deterred some news outlets.

Kinsters · 10/06/2025 23:53

It totally changes the perception of the offence when you know the crime is committed by a man. And @Catiette is right, a lot of people wouldn't even consider that as a possibility if she/her pronouns are used throughout. Hopefully they'll listen to complaints.

The whole GRA really needs to be repealed, if the demuring is because of that. Or at least remove the awful requirement that it must be kept private at all costs.

moto748e · 11/06/2025 00:04

Well, quite. If this is the 'benefit' of having a GRC, it's not a good look, is it?

Kinsters · 11/06/2025 00:10

moto748e · 11/06/2025 00:04

Well, quite. If this is the 'benefit' of having a GRC, it's not a good look, is it?

Maybe this is the angle that will work to repeal the GRA. Prisons were one of the things I think most people agreed had to be an exception to TWAW even at the height of the madness. Hopefully the GRA will go the same way as TWAW has gone...

Rockhopper1 · 11/06/2025 16:03

As a professional who worked with his child victims reported Jimmy Savile to the BBC in 1991 - just sayin’ it can take them a while and a lot of effort by a lot of people to correct things …

RoyalCorgi · 11/06/2025 17:05

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 16:48

BBC aren't regulated by IPSO, they self regulate. Only if you jump through many hoops do you get to take it to IPSO, and most people will die give up long before they get that far.

IPSO is for newspapers, Ofcom is the organisation that regulates broadcasters. I'm assuming this is the case even when it's a website article.

Redshoeblueshoe · 11/06/2025 19:39

Right I mentioned IPSO straight after the newspaper article.
Ofcom are also captured.

Seainasive · 12/06/2025 07:33

Your complaints seem to have worked- ar least the headline has been changed now. Well done!

ArabellaScott · 12/06/2025 08:38

RoyalCorgi · 11/06/2025 17:05

IPSO is for newspapers, Ofcom is the organisation that regulates broadcasters. I'm assuming this is the case even when it's a website article.

Sorry, yes, acronym kerfuffle!

ArabellaScott · 12/06/2025 08:39

moto748e · 10/06/2025 22:10

Is this the worst (and most overt) yet from the BBC? How dare they lie to the public like that? Well, they can. And if a GRC is the reason for them being so coy, well, it hasn't deterred some news outlets.

Scarlett Blake was, imho, the worst yet.

SueSuddio · 12/06/2025 09:21

The BBC plays by their own rules in this regard and are heavily biased towards trans ideology - they would happily call any man a woman the moment he uttered in baritone that he was now to be called Susie.

Utterly useless, the only way to complain I think is to stuff your TV licence which is hard to do.

However, I think they don't help themselves, or even trans identified folk, by winding up most sane people, so imo they're on a lose lose.

viques · 12/06/2025 09:42

If the BBC is so worried about damaging Zoe’s fragile ego then they can avoid using pronouns altogether by remembering that pronouns replace a persons name. So using Zoe’s name instead of using Zoe’s preferred pronouns means that we are immediately alerted to the possibility that using Zoe’s preferred pronouns is problematic, thus while respecting Zoe’s need to be known by a preferred name - which in Zoe’s mind no doubt already serves as a sufficient identifier - anyone with half a brain reading the article recognises that using Zoe’s name rather than Zoe’s preferred pronouns tells us as much as we need to know about Zoe to make our own assessment as to the major underlying reason for Zoe’s involvement in potentially violent criminal activity.

ArabellaScott · 12/06/2025 10:11

The BBC are concerned about the public image of men.

BundleBoogie · 12/06/2025 13:54

I was thinking about this case this morning. I still can’t get over the fact that he was a PCSO!!! How can someone so obviously unhinged and with behaviour off the scale have been employed in a position of authority?? People don’t change that drastically - he would have been an obviously unsuitable candidate from the off.

Has there been a mass failure in suitability screening standards or have people claiming a trans identity been exempted in some way? I’m also thinking about the suitability of that trans doctor to continue practising medicine when her judgement is clearly impaired. Ditto the male police officer (possibly also called Lyndsey) with a trans identity who was seriously harassing the FSU guy - I can’t remember his name.

Obviously it would never happen but given the acknowledged prevalence of sometimes quite serious mental health problems in people with a trans identity, I can see an argument for the disclosure of this as being a trigger for careful screening for suitability for a number of professions including nursing. Clearly the current system isn’t working.

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