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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What it feels like for a man

19 replies

Coralleadery · 07/06/2025 23:19

I guess men have the privilege eh? (Await image)

What it feels like for a man
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Redshoeblueshoe · 07/06/2025 23:27

Is that Sandi Toskvig with him ?

Burnerphonering · 07/06/2025 23:31

🙄

hjhjhjhjhj · 07/06/2025 23:33

Good on him. Being his authentic self. Doing no one any harm and getting on with his life.

Pleasantsort · 07/06/2025 23:34

oh ffs

Coralleadery · 07/06/2025 23:35

hjhjhjhjhj · 07/06/2025 23:33

Good on him. Being his authentic self. Doing no one any harm and getting on with his life.

Deciding he might be a woman (which is obviously easy just to be) but ‘keeping it a loose baby’ in case that harms his career as a comedian.

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NPET · 07/06/2025 23:41

I guess we're just bodies that men can nip in and out of.

Helleofabore · 08/06/2025 00:18

Good to know that we can all have the privilege of being gender fluid and being whichever sex we feel like at a given time. Oh … wait…. As a female person, I won’t quite get the privileges that Eddie got in his life for being male…. Oh well.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/06/2025 00:46

Well at least he’s given up chasing teenage girls out of the women’s toilets when they object to his presence, that’s something, I suppose. Oh except they wouldn’t dare object to him these days.

moto748e · 08/06/2025 01:01

The worst thing for me is, he's changed his story over the years, just to fit in best. And he paints himself as some kind of bold iconoclaust?

moto748e · 08/06/2025 01:03

Reminds me how much he has in common with Stewart Lee.

GallantKumquat · 08/06/2025 02:10

I have to admit great disappointment. Izzard is a man of tremendous talent and creative genius and was one of my favorite comics. I felt betrayed when he came out as transgender, like his whole - I'm just a regular heterosexual bloke who wears women's clothes as a prop and creative aesthetic exercise - was just lie to throw women (his primary viewership) off the trail. Instead he was simply a pervey AGP getting off on people seeing him in women's clothing who created a falsified (or at least inconsistently recounted) childhood to justify a gendered identity. (Like every other AGP under the sun.)

But it's really not correct for me to feel betrayed. Izzard always said he was a transvestite, as though it was an identity. And he never claimed his desire to wear women's clothing wasn't an erotic interest. Indeed if you listen closely to his earlier interviews it's clear that his cross-dressing was a compulsion (which could only have had at least some sexual component) that he channeled creatively in the tradition of all the great comics who transform inner unhappiness into laughs. Instead it was me being naive, and the nativity is the same one I had about transwomen, in both cases that I was being asked to participate in and affirm a sexual fantasy.

Really the only thing that's changed over the last two decades is that the definition of transwomen has expanded to comfortably include the Izzards of the world, so why shouldn't he claim it? And to his credit he's been less objectionable (I won't say one of the good ones) on the issue than many other public figures, trans and non-trans (not withstanding his presumptive use of the women's loo, post 'coming out'): he hasn't insisted on using pronouns, or even his new name; hasn't denounced Rowling; and didn't sign the open letter condemning the SC ruling.

Datun · 08/06/2025 04:16

GallantKumquat · 08/06/2025 02:10

I have to admit great disappointment. Izzard is a man of tremendous talent and creative genius and was one of my favorite comics. I felt betrayed when he came out as transgender, like his whole - I'm just a regular heterosexual bloke who wears women's clothes as a prop and creative aesthetic exercise - was just lie to throw women (his primary viewership) off the trail. Instead he was simply a pervey AGP getting off on people seeing him in women's clothing who created a falsified (or at least inconsistently recounted) childhood to justify a gendered identity. (Like every other AGP under the sun.)

But it's really not correct for me to feel betrayed. Izzard always said he was a transvestite, as though it was an identity. And he never claimed his desire to wear women's clothing wasn't an erotic interest. Indeed if you listen closely to his earlier interviews it's clear that his cross-dressing was a compulsion (which could only have had at least some sexual component) that he channeled creatively in the tradition of all the great comics who transform inner unhappiness into laughs. Instead it was me being naive, and the nativity is the same one I had about transwomen, in both cases that I was being asked to participate in and affirm a sexual fantasy.

Really the only thing that's changed over the last two decades is that the definition of transwomen has expanded to comfortably include the Izzards of the world, so why shouldn't he claim it? And to his credit he's been less objectionable (I won't say one of the good ones) on the issue than many other public figures, trans and non-trans (not withstanding his presumptive use of the women's loo, post 'coming out'): he hasn't insisted on using pronouns, or even his new name; hasn't denounced Rowling; and didn't sign the open letter condemning the SC ruling.

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Whilst I don't disagree, it's a bloody low bar to have to note that even tho we're all unwilling participants in Eddie's sexual fantasy, at least he's not being an aggressive bastard about it.

Noshadelamp · 08/06/2025 04:23

moto748e · 08/06/2025 01:03

Reminds me how much he has in common with Stewart Lee.

In what way? Is Stewart Lee gender fluid? I'm genuinely confused. Recently saw SL and couldn't put my finger on an uneasiness I felt at his show.

moto748e · 08/06/2025 11:41

Noshadelamp · 08/06/2025 04:23

In what way? Is Stewart Lee gender fluid? I'm genuinely confused. Recently saw SL and couldn't put my finger on an uneasiness I felt at his show.

I don't imagine so! But this is just my take: both started off with a brand of comic whimsy (largely left behind now), and both have aspirations, y'know, to be taken a bit seriously, more than just a comedian, not like Michael MacIntyre or Peter Kay that the stupid proles like. Lee in particular mocks his own Guardian-reading audiences, and they lap it up! I think both take themselves very seriously. Eddie's even done shows in French, dontcha know? Course, nobody laughed, but still...

NextRinny · 08/06/2025 19:31

hjhjhjhjhj · 07/06/2025 23:33

Good on him. Being his authentic self. Doing no one any harm and getting on with his life.

Harm is not only physical i.e. blood and guts.
Denying women the ability or right to convene without any males present is also harm.

JanesLittleGirl · 08/06/2025 22:46

Oh look, another soft image from the Sleazy Lizard:

What it feels like for a man
HRTQueen · 09/06/2025 12:36

Suzy will become Eddie when a job comes in that pays Eddie wages and having a girly day (as he has called it) will magically be suppressed

how fortunate to be in such a position

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/06/2025 12:55

hjhjhjhjhj · 07/06/2025 23:33

Good on him. Being his authentic self. Doing no one any harm and getting on with his life.

You are joking right?

Redefining womanhood as being some sort of mental difference to men is incredibly damaging and harmful to women.

We spend hundreds of years now fighting to get rid of the sexist idea our brains just aren't as suitable as men's for various applications and then suddenly we all supposed to agree that if a man thinks enough womanny thoughts then to all intents and purposes he is a woman? That can fuck right off.

SinnerBoy · 09/06/2025 14:07

moto748e · 08/06/2025 01:01

The worst thing for me is, he's changed his story over the years, just to fit in best. And he paints himself as some kind of bold iconoclaust?

"These are not women's clothes, they're my clothes. I'm an action transvestite."

Hmm. Yes. Nothing about being a woman, how strange!

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