Headteacher backtracks after calling for 'gender neutral' uniform

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He was going to ban skirts.

Parental feedback was not sought initially, but they've had plenty of it since the change was announced!

My opinion. Police the children effectively if they're not wearing it properly. Don't punish the girls who are following the rules.

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Such an obsession with discussing girls' "arses", sleazy and dodgy.

Why don’t you just say ‘prudes’? I remember that word was thrown around a lot when I was at school, directed at girls who were dressed most modestly.

You are exactly the kind of parent who makes this such a nightmare. You’re not helping your DDs. They will always need to know what’s and isn’t appropriate to wear in different situations, plenty of things such as work or a funeral aren’t a free-for-all.

There is a young woman in my workplace who is very generously endowed. I know this because she wears very low cut tops and when she comes over to my desk to ask something her breasts are literally in my face, I’m at eye level with them. God knows what this must be like for the men at work, it’s bad enough for me, a woman.

But because of the narrative of women like you, there’s nothing than can be said. Everyone just has to put up with it.

Yep, agree that you are part of the problem here.

People cannot even discuss the issues without being accused of being perverts or sleazy.

It is entirely reasonable not to want to see people's arses in your workplace.

And arse is a normal word.

Women don't rape, kill or do sexual perversion at all or at the same rate as men do, so no. They are usually physically more powerful.
Women's short skirts do not harm men. Women exposing their skin harms nobody.
Women forced to cover is harmful.
In a wag you could say that men made their bed.

Right, so you rock up to office work in a bikini then?

You'd be happy with the headteacher wearing booty shorts?

Because forcing people to cover up with a <gasp> dress code is harmful?

Get a grip.

I probably agree with this. I had so much trouble finding any skirt to fit. Nevermind one which was the correct length!!!

I was curvy. If it fitted my hips it didn't fit my waist. I am a petite size to doubly add to the problem. So something that fitted on the waist/hips was too long and looked utter ridiculous because of the cut was not able to be taken up.

That lent itself to rolling as the actual solution!!

Now we have a problem with a lot more girls being taller (so again the length is a problem the other way) and bigger around the waist and hips.

And don't get me started on school shirts and trying to find one that fits a busty girl without popping the buttons / being three sizes too big on the shoulders or elsewhere.

I honestly think that polo style t-shirts would work better across the board and be more comfortable. Get rid of ties (the argument that it's getting ready for the workforce is silly as workplace attire has relaxed a lot in thirty years anyway).

All these unique skirt designs for girls don't help with fit if you can only buy from a single supplier precisely because they are designed for a very limited body shape.

You'd think in 2025 someone could come up with a better set of options.

The point indeed is making is how dangerous that is. That poster has quoted that Muslim girls wear trousers, so why can't others do thr same - suggestions we introduce sharia law.
The ignoramus on here have no idea that these girls will be controlled and brainwashed and shamed and threatened with generation of women and girls becoming unmarriageable for exposing their skin. Comform doesnt come into it. Theyll be disowned and ostrasized. So they do end up covering up.And she suggested we copy that.

I don’t see what that has to do with clothing.

I don’t want to see a man’s underwear either. I’m not going to attack him either way.

Can you really not see the difference between a uniform policy and sharia law? The difference between a burka and not showing your underwear in school?

I don't want men turning up at work in a bikini top anymore than I want women in a bikini top. Unless they are working in a swimming pool or beach environment.

The best option would be to ditch uniform altogether.

Love the energy here! You’re totally right creative writing is fun, and some lovely outrage mixed with wild projections just spices things up. You are fighting for a good and just cause. Down with short skirts!

I don't believe they can. They want to WIN the argument rather than have a sensible and rational conversation...

The headteacher I was picturing in booty shorts is male....I definitely don't want that either!

I wish that were the case but you'd have a whole pile of other issues - especially around bunson burners, woodwork and catering classes

Never mind the bullying.

And you'd still have issues with boundary pushing...

The poster suggested we copy Muslims.

Parents, when polled, want uniforms, particularly at secondary.

On this occasions this item of clothing is used to justify men's behaviour so it's not that far off.

Have you heard of the former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott? He quite enjoyed getting around in a pair of red budgie smugglers. If you Google Tony Abbott red Speedos you can feast your eyes on him.

Well I liked it. Why shouldn't girls like wearing short skirts?
And how do you know whether those girls in Rotherham were wearing skirts or not?
Like it matters.

And often so do the children.

You still haven't explained why asking girls to follow the same simple rule as boys is such a problem.

No. Not having a school uniform is crap. I miss my DD having a uniform. It can be expensive to buy enough of the right clothes for school. At least with a uniform no one cares if you wear the same 5 shirts every week for a few years.

By uniform I mean something simple and sensible like a unisex polo shirt and plain dark shorts. No blazers or ties or anything like that.

Doesn’t mean they’re right, though! British parents and British people in general are completely in sway to uniform, even though the rest of Europe manages perfectly well, if not better without it.

Most Brits have no experience of non-uniform schools, and think they are likely a permanent mufti day with all the pressures that brings. They aren’t.

There was a thread on here a few years back with parents who had experienced both, and overall those parents preferred non-uniform.