What have I just read?!

[proximalhumerous]

“There’s nothing inherently feminine or womanly about conception, pregnancy, or delivery. No body part, nor bodily function, is inherently gendered..."

From a website called "healthline". (The 'n' might be superfluous...)

Surely, surely we're going to look back on this madness in a few years and wonder what the hell were people thinking?

Well it's certainly sexed, if not gendered. As gender is a steaming pile of oppressive bullshit.

What absolute bollocks that is. Loving your work re the 'n'.

The age where people pontificated absolute bullshit in pseudo intellectual language as if this made their fantasies happen. And swam around in fantastically self obsessed personal realities.

Not feminine as generally used, perhaps. I didn’t feel feminine in labour or breastfeeding.
But female, undoubtedly.

For once it makes sense.

Pregnancy and childbirth has precisely sweet FA to do with 'gender'.

It's the most female thing it's ever been or ever will be possible to do.

I felt the very female when pregnant, in labour, with after pains, lochia, breastfeeding and all the rest. Not bloody feminine, or "womanly", but deeply physically female.

I'm with @murasaki no body part or function is "gendered" but sexed for sure. Unequivocally and undoubtedly so.

But female, undoubtedly.

Yes. Female. Giving birth is supremely female, as in powerful, resilient, fucking warrior. Of course it isn't 'feminine', because femininity is a bullshit gender stereotype.

Ironically enough, accompanying it is the age when most UK universities are dying on their feet, along with every value they once espoused.

Commodifying education, turning it into an aggressive, competitive business sector and universities into 'employability' bean factories is what's led to this downfall. Now successive governments are letting them sink into the black hole Blair's 50% quota came out of.

And we sat back and let it happen. At the rate of public sector cuts and dying HEIs it will be a miracle if we have any economy left in a few years. At which point, people will have far more serious issues on their plate than tedious old 'identity politics'.

I'm convinced the timing of all these things isn't coincidental.

Thanks!

There is nothing inherently masculine about bollocks.

Anyone can talk it, just open your mouth and say the first thing that comes into your head.

Obviously, I know it’s nonsense but if you believe it, what is the difference between men and women? If you draw a Venn diagram of men/people/women name anything that goes exclusively in either men or women and not the overlapping (not inherently gendered) People part?

Pronouns

I have a friend who is completely captured by this stuff and says he knows what gender people are because they tell him.

I asked him how he knew he had a daughter before she could talk. He didn't have an answer to that.

Not ‘feminine’ but definitely ‘womanly’.
pregnancy and birth aren’t necessary conditions for being ‘womanly’ but they’re sure as hell sufficient!

How can he tell the difference between his great grandmother and his great grandfather? I'm assuming they aren't still around to tell him so how could he possibly tell which one gave birth to him.

Every time I use a loo with a sign telling me not to put any ‘feminine hygiene products’ down the loo but to use the bin provided I wonder what it is that’s so bloody feminine about periods. This thread made me think of that. Female biology is not feminine ime.

That can’t be right though, we use pronouns about others. Me reciting the catechism doesn’t make a man a woman.

It only makes sense if you really, really, really believe that transmen are men.

Of course, if you don’t believe it just means that bodies are sexed and not gendered, and thinking yourself into man gender doesn’t mean that you can’t get pregnant, don’t need cervical smears or ignore the potential for breast cancer.

"he", "him" etc are masculine pronouns; "she", "her" etc are feminine. They are almost the only things* I can think of which are unequivocally gendered, rather than sexed, which is why genderists make such a fuss about them. Remember Ricky Gervais "Look at her pronouns!"

*Also some other words such as titles

Feelings and/or the absence thereof.
Born female and don't feel not-female? Then you're a woman.
Born female and feel male? Then you're a man.
Born female and don't feel female but don't feel male either? Then you're non-binary, or something else.
🎵Feelings... Nothing more than feelings 🎶

I’m not sure what being feminine has anything to do with your health. Female on the other hand…

If you are talking bollocks then you are talking nonsense. On the other hand, if you are talking ovaries......

Oh, I thought it was internal and external sex organs.

Mind you, I have heard it claimed that the biggest sex organ in a woman is her brain.

Agree. The commodification of education (and everything else including water) is a technocratic and neo-liberal capitalist solution to making society prosperous and is tied into globalization. Unfortunately, everything the (free) market touches it ruins.
So our universities are ruined. And a great deal else. You're right, we are on a path to destruction of our economy.