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Police Scotland equate 'gender critical' views to Nazism

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ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 11:53

Yes, they really did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14758737/Police-accused-Nazi-slur-against-feminist-campaigners-new-trans-row.html

A document circulated within Police Scotland for 'Trans History Week', in May.

‘Like many noteworthy events, this week was founded to start at this particular time deliberately, this time in recognition of the anniversary of the Nazi raid on the world’s first ever trans clinic in 1933.
‘Books and paperwork were burned as part of the Nazis’ targeting of queer communities. Gender binary was a key feature of the Nazi racist policies.
‘Right now, some 88 years later, the gender critical movement has a strong voice and presence.
‘Is this movement an echo of how past hostilities arose and does it mean we have failed to understand the lessons we should have collectively learned from our shared history?’

Police accused of Nazi slur in new trans row

Police Scotland was at the centre of a storm of criticism last night after comparing feminist campaigners who oppose transgender policies to Nazis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14758737/Police-accused-Nazi-slur-against-feminist-campaigners-new-trans-row.html

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AlexandraLeaving · 29/05/2025 11:59

Fucking hell. Just as you think things have surely run out of stupidity, more pops out of the woodwork.

Greyskybluesky · 29/05/2025 12:01

Is BH one of their key advisors?

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:02

'It is believed to have been written by a police officer or member of civilian staff with responsibility for liaising with gay and transgender employees.'

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ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:02

'Commenting on the ‘Nazi’ document last night, a Police Scotland spokesman said: ‘The content does not reflect the views of Police Scotland and has been removed.
‘Advice will be given around the use of language.’

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ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:03

It's not just 'use of language', though, is it? Unless I suppose if we say mal comms are 'use of language', or defamation is 'use of language'.

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MarieDeGournay · 29/05/2025 12:13

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:02

'Commenting on the ‘Nazi’ document last night, a Police Scotland spokesman said: ‘The content does not reflect the views of Police Scotland and has been removed.
‘Advice will be given around the use of language.’

It's not 'the language', it's the content that is objectionable😡

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 29/05/2025 12:22

Police Scotland is a joke. Scot Squad is less funny.

PriOn1 · 29/05/2025 12:22

I shall await my arrest along with all the other Scottish Terven.

Helleofabore · 29/05/2025 12:35

That is appalling. This hyperbole is spiralling.

Thelnebriati · 29/05/2025 12:38

Do they mention the times trans activists burned JK Rowlings books, or when feminist books were removed from the feminist libraries? Did they compare trans activists to Nazis?
No, I didn't think so.

Thelnebriati · 29/05/2025 12:40

''Accusation in a mirror is a false claim that accuses the target of something that the perpetrator is doing or intends to do.''

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror

countrysidedeficit · 29/05/2025 12:41

How embarrassing to be so very stupid.

teawamutu · 29/05/2025 13:07

countrysidedeficit · 29/05/2025 12:41

How embarrassing to be so very stupid.

Terrifying to be that stupid with powers of arrest, I'd say.

TheOtherRaven · 29/05/2025 14:23

This week has been a master class really in how the leading voices of GI are not balanced or well people, are incapable of rationality or a grip on reality, and really should not be in any position of responsibility. Masks off and what's there is what was always suspected but wasn't 'kind' to mention.

Can we talk about the Malaga Elephants yet?

SidewaysOtter · 29/05/2025 14:30

Bloody hell.

TheOtherRaven · 29/05/2025 14:38

Dr Stuart Waiton, a senior lecturer in sociology and criminology at Abertay University in Dundee, said: ‘Transgender activists are inclined to use hyperbolic statements. ‘This one that attempts to associate today’s gender critics with Nazi Germany is a particularly embarrassing example of this.

‘That Police Scotland allow activists to promote their extremist ideology on their own communication system suggests that we have a serious problem in this country.

Politely put, but yes, I'd bet a criminologist could make some very interesting professional observations.

Helleofabore · 29/05/2025 14:40

TheOtherRaven · 29/05/2025 14:38

Dr Stuart Waiton, a senior lecturer in sociology and criminology at Abertay University in Dundee, said: ‘Transgender activists are inclined to use hyperbolic statements. ‘This one that attempts to associate today’s gender critics with Nazi Germany is a particularly embarrassing example of this.

‘That Police Scotland allow activists to promote their extremist ideology on their own communication system suggests that we have a serious problem in this country.

Politely put, but yes, I'd bet a criminologist could make some very interesting professional observations.

Dr Waiton has put it very well I think.

GCAcademic · 29/05/2025 14:45

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:02

'Commenting on the ‘Nazi’ document last night, a Police Scotland spokesman said: ‘The content does not reflect the views of Police Scotland and has been removed.
‘Advice will be given around the use of language.’

Sounds like a lot of people need training on women's rights in list of recent court cases.Let's hope employers are assiduous about that as they have been about implementing trans awareness training - but without the misrepresentation of the law, of course.

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2025 15:05

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 12:02

'Commenting on the ‘Nazi’ document last night, a Police Scotland spokesman said: ‘The content does not reflect the views of Police Scotland and has been removed.
‘Advice will be given around the use of language.’

So they will just be advised not disciplined as appropriate (gross misconduct for bringing the force into disrepute?)

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 15:20

‘That Police Scotland allow activists to promote their extremist ideology on their own communication system suggests that we have a serious problem in this country.

Absolutely this.

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SammyScrounge · 29/05/2025 15:38

ArabellaScott · 29/05/2025 11:53

Yes, they really did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14758737/Police-accused-Nazi-slur-against-feminist-campaigners-new-trans-row.html

A document circulated within Police Scotland for 'Trans History Week', in May.

‘Like many noteworthy events, this week was founded to start at this particular time deliberately, this time in recognition of the anniversary of the Nazi raid on the world’s first ever trans clinic in 1933.
‘Books and paperwork were burned as part of the Nazis’ targeting of queer communities. Gender binary was a key feature of the Nazi racist policies.
‘Right now, some 88 years later, the gender critical movement has a strong voice and presence.
‘Is this movement an echo of how past hostilities arose and does it mean we have failed to understand the lessons we should have collectively learned from our shared history?’

Very creative history.

TheOtherRaven · 29/05/2025 15:54

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2025 15:05

So they will just be advised not disciplined as appropriate (gross misconduct for bringing the force into disrepute?)

As usual, the lack of action is a tacit admittance that they agree with the fool that did this, the only problem was saying the quiet bit out loud.

Am I the only one that cannot find any evidence in real, actual facts and history of the Third Reich attempting to take over the world and do all the terrible things they did in the name of women having single sex spaces and not having to get undressed on command of men with serious problems?

TheOtherRaven · 29/05/2025 15:55

It's hardly a slippery slope is it? First you say women should have the right to privacy and dignity, and before you know it you've invaded Poland.

JellySaurus · 29/05/2025 16:01

IIRC the Nazis had quite a big thing for crossdressing themselves, a bigger thing for harrassing and harming homosexuals, and an even bigger thing for destroying the work of Jewish medics. Oh, and wasn't their biggest thing of all disenfrachising, dehumanising and murdering Jews? And homosexuals, and people with disabilities, and people who dared express alternative views?

Nope. Not seeing the comparison at all.

unwashedanddazed · 29/05/2025 16:04

"In March, police chiefs asked an equalities watchdog – the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) - for advice about whether they should allow rapists to self-identify as women, and provide single-sex changing rooms for staff."

Why the fuck can't these morons think for themselves. To think these are actual questions that they needed help to answer! Idiots.