Trans Travel. UK Gov issues new warning about Trans/Gender identity.

[GreenFriedTomato]

I regularly receive travel updates for countries I've visited in the past. This morning I received one for Egypt.
There have been a handful of cases reported about trans people being denied entry but none of them recent, so it made me wonder why now?
I considered the timing with the SC ruling and that Egypt is a popular holiday destination, but it has never been LGB and particularly not T friendly, so it's nothing new.
Has someone in the travel department thought, :oh now trans women aren't women anymore, we'd better say something or there'll be lot of angry unsuspecting TIMS being put straight back on planes back to the UK. Holiday ruined.

Warnings and insurance
Still current at:
21 May 2025
Updated:
20 May 2025
Latest update:
Information added about entry for people whose gender expression or physical appearance does not match the sex marker in their passport

Gender expression
You may be denied entry if your gender expression or physical appearance does not match the sex marker in your passport or your passport photograph.

I had a look at other countries to see if they'd been given similar warnings, but there don't seem to be any.

It's made the press too.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/foreign-office-updates-advice-anyone-173658618.html

Edited to add link

That’s interesting, and as you say, I doubt they’ve been particularly welcome in the past.

Maybe this will attract 'so what about butch women/lesbians yadda yadda'

The problems at passport control are only with obvious trans - not men/women who look somewhat feminine/masculine. And they, like us, can tell.

@Ereshkigalangcleg exactly what I thought. It made me wonder if I've missed something recently happening over there. But it doesn't seem so.

How did it help any of these people to say they can change their passport?! Really really it doesn't, and if politics do change it only leaves them in a vulnerable position. This applies to a lot of countries. Tolerance isn't something we should take for granted.

What a surprise - men with an F on their passport may be challenged when trying to entry some countries.

Why did HMPO think it was a sane thing to do to allow falsification of passports anyway?

The only Brit case I know of was a man that went on holiday with his mother. I can't remember if his passport was male and he was 'dressed as a woman' but obviously male. Or if his passport was female and he was obviously male. Either way, he was sent straight back.
They don't let men dressed as women in, full stop.

I mean it's fair enough really. You don't expect to travel to another county and for them to have all the same laws. And for you to be able to ignore them. Not unless you're a raging narcissist.

The passport loop needs to be closed, for all these men ultimately but there is literally no legal basis to allow it for ones without a GRC right now. They even have a “cross dresser route” for which you don’t even need a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

Classic case of FAFO. Presumably this also reveals that the likely purpose behind targeting passports and drivers licence documents wasn’t so men could go globe trotting “as women” but to use against women in the UK to “prove” their “authentic selves”.

I noticed when I came back from Luxor at the beginning of March that we had to go through two security checks split into male and female queues and wondered what would happen with trans people. Very thorough frisking(!) done by male and female guards.

I saw an interview with Maya F in which she says it was something to do with transsexuals back in the 1950s/60s having their operations done in Morocco. They needed to be able to travel home under their new identity? 🤷🏻

I know that raises questions over how on earth the status of one's plumbing affects outward appearance, but perhaps it made sense at the time.

Globe trotting as women made me chortle.

I really don’t see why passports (and other id documents) shouldn’t include both sex and gender identity if you have one. Then an officer at passport control will know what to expect. Honestly, a system where we mark characteristics on your passport to help check you are the passport holder; and then change those markers is bound to make life more difficult.

Obviously trans people need to think about which countries they are happy to visit. As a woman, I’m not keen to go to Iran or Afghanistan 🤷‍♀️

@DragonRunor I doubt Egypt and other countries that have the same policies, would even accept a gender identity marker. And I honestly can't see the male security guards there happy frisking men with boobs and make-up.

Oh FGS why don't they just go to Thailand and enjoy that. I say that in the belief that anything ladyboy, trans and all other gender bending stuff is OK there!