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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ash Regan launches 'Unbuyable' bill to ban prostitution in Scotland

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 16:47

https://www.albaparty.org/regan_lodges_unbuyable_bill

'Ash Regan MSP has today [Tuesday 20 May] formally lodged her Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill—known as the Unbuyable Bill—in the Scottish Parliament.
The Bill proposes a bold and long-overdue step towards ending the commercial sexual exploitation of women and girls in Scotland. It will criminalise the purchase of sex, repeal outdated offences that target the seller, quash historic convictions, and create a statutory right to support for those in and exiting prostitution.
Speaking ahead of the Bill's formal introduction, Alba Party’s Ash Regan MSP said:
"Prostitution is not a job like any other, as some lobby groups claim; it is a system of commercial sexual exploitation that targets the vulnerable, is driven by demand and is enabled by silence. Commodifying human beings has consequences - it's time we reframe the shame.
"Today, I am proud to bring commercial sexual exploitation out of the shadows into a debate across Scotland, by formally lodging the Unbuyable Bill in Parliament. Unbuyable is the first key step in tackling attitudes that have shamefully normalised inequality of the sexes and underpinned the scourge of male violence against women
"It is a Bill forged by those who have survived the system of exploitation, for their own recovery and for those still trapped inside or vulnerable to such exploitation. It recognises what so many are afraid to say: that buying sexual access to a human being is a form of male violence.
"We must reframe shame. It does not belong to exploited women and men—it belongs to the men who buy them."
"The Bill aligns with the Nordic Model— adopted in countries such as Sweden, Norway, France, and Ireland—and marks a departure from the failed approach of decriminalising the sex trade, without addressing the root cause and consequences of commodifying human beings: demand."'

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NeelyOHara · 20/05/2025 16:49

Excellent, I hope it goes through.

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OhBuggerandArse · 20/05/2025 16:53

The media, Greens, and NuSNP will do their absolute best to scupper this. I am hugely impressed that Ash has managed to get it to this stage, but it must have been a pretty lonely struggle without significant party infrastructure to support the work involved. I wonder whether the other party leaders will allow a free vote on it?

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 16:54

There is a fair bit of cross party support, but yes, I'm sure the Greens and SNP will be firmly pro prostitution. That said, the Scotgov has recognised prostitution as VAWG, recently, so ...

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 16:55

https://www.gov.scot/policies/violence-against-women-and-girls/women-involved-in-prostitution/

'Challenging men's demand for prostitution

Commercial sexual exploitation, including prostitution, is a form of gendered violence. We are taking forward a series of policy actions to tackle misogynistic behaviours in society, this includes prostitution.'

Prostitution

How the Scottish Government are tackling misogynistic behaviours in society, this includes prostitution.

https://www.gov.scot/policies/violence-against-women-and-girls/women-involved-in-prostitution/

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OhBuggerandArse · 20/05/2025 17:00

'Policy actions' usually means handing more cash over to the Intersectional Gender Architecture policy quango people though, nothing as straightforward as actually voting to protect women legally. Sorry to be so cynical.

BigfootSmallButtons · 20/05/2025 18:45

Watching Reporting Scotland. So good to hear Ash speaking so clearly on this. Of course, the way it was framed by the news was to get the objections in early and leave it on an emotional, pro-prostitution note 🙄

Christinapple · 20/05/2025 20:47

The bill will be opposed by sex worker groups:

https://nen.press/tag/prostitution-offences-and-support-scotland-bill/

  • Groups representing Scottish sex workers unite to fight Ash Regan’s bill to criminalise the purchase of sex
  • Groups warn new law would increase violence and discrimination against sex workers

I'm also going to leave this here. An open letter opposing the NM and advocating decriminalisation instead.

https://decrimnow.org.uk/open-letter-on-the-nordic-model/

Opponents of the Nordic Model include just for a few examples: Amnesty International, The World Health Org, Human Rights Watch, Anti-Slavery International, Global Alliance against Traffic in Women, UNAIDS & UNFPA, Freedom United (anti-trafficking org), PICUM (Dutch based org concerned with the rights and safety of migrants in Europe), GAATW (The Global Alliance Against Traffic in Women), HIV Scotland, STOPAIDS, sex worker orgs and the Royal College of Nursing amongst others.

"There is a fair bit of cross party support, "

No especially. Regan just barely got enough cross party signatures to be allowed to introduce the bill.

Prostitution (Offences And Support) (Scotland) Bill – The NEN – North Edinburgh News

https://nen.press/tag/prostitution-offences-and-support-scotland-bill/

mintbru · 20/05/2025 20:53

I saw a thread about this on reddit and unsurprisingly many of the creeps on their were opposed and instead advocated for legalisation, legal brothels and to stop shaming sex workers, lots of criticism of Ash Regan as a right wing, uptight, Christian prude. One comment was even advocating for "sex work" to be a legitimate career path for school leavers, female school leavers I presume, also lots of guys outraged that Ash had called buying sex as male violence against women. That was reddit though so what was I expecting?

I hope it goes through, definitely a massive step in the right direction.

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 21:37

mintbru · 20/05/2025 20:53

I saw a thread about this on reddit and unsurprisingly many of the creeps on their were opposed and instead advocated for legalisation, legal brothels and to stop shaming sex workers, lots of criticism of Ash Regan as a right wing, uptight, Christian prude. One comment was even advocating for "sex work" to be a legitimate career path for school leavers, female school leavers I presume, also lots of guys outraged that Ash had called buying sex as male violence against women. That was reddit though so what was I expecting?

I hope it goes through, definitely a massive step in the right direction.

How very unsurprising.

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OvaHere · 20/05/2025 21:39

mintbru · 20/05/2025 20:53

I saw a thread about this on reddit and unsurprisingly many of the creeps on their were opposed and instead advocated for legalisation, legal brothels and to stop shaming sex workers, lots of criticism of Ash Regan as a right wing, uptight, Christian prude. One comment was even advocating for "sex work" to be a legitimate career path for school leavers, female school leavers I presume, also lots of guys outraged that Ash had called buying sex as male violence against women. That was reddit though so what was I expecting?

I hope it goes through, definitely a massive step in the right direction.

Not surprising at all.

maximalistmaximus · 20/05/2025 22:33

It’s embarrassing that we still havent achieved this.

no woman should be bought.

OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2025 07:38

Ash is going for it - they will still scupper the bill, but at least now when they vote against it people will wonder what their personal interest is....

MassiveWordSalad · 21/05/2025 07:44

Christinapple · 20/05/2025 20:47

The bill will be opposed by sex worker groups:

https://nen.press/tag/prostitution-offences-and-support-scotland-bill/

  • Groups representing Scottish sex workers unite to fight Ash Regan’s bill to criminalise the purchase of sex
  • Groups warn new law would increase violence and discrimination against sex workers

I'm also going to leave this here. An open letter opposing the NM and advocating decriminalisation instead.

https://decrimnow.org.uk/open-letter-on-the-nordic-model/

Opponents of the Nordic Model include just for a few examples: Amnesty International, The World Health Org, Human Rights Watch, Anti-Slavery International, Global Alliance against Traffic in Women, UNAIDS & UNFPA, Freedom United (anti-trafficking org), PICUM (Dutch based org concerned with the rights and safety of migrants in Europe), GAATW (The Global Alliance Against Traffic in Women), HIV Scotland, STOPAIDS, sex worker orgs and the Royal College of Nursing amongst others.

"There is a fair bit of cross party support, "

No especially. Regan just barely got enough cross party signatures to be allowed to introduce the bill.

Why are you against the Nordic Model, @Christinapple? I’d genuinely like to hear some debate on this issue.

OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2025 08:00

I think that decriminalisation/opposition to the Nordic Model has somehow been drawn into the 'bundle' of so-called liberal legislation and policy models that has been appearing across the western world over the last decade, without much explanation of how the 'priority' issues actually became a priority or investigation of how they relate to and depend on each other. So if you want an off-the-peg collection of laws to introduce/opinions to hold that make you a 'good guy', they include decriminalisation, self-ID, hate crime laws, banning 'conversion therapy', relaxation of surrogacy laws, assisted suicide, reduction of age of consent/responsibility. Many loosely justified by arguments around personal or bodily autonomy; most characterised by their total failure to notice the negative impact on women, children and safeguarding.

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OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2025 07:38

Ash is going for it - they will still scupper the bill, but at least now when they vote against it people will wonder what their personal interest is....

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Ash Regan launches 'Unbuyable' bill to ban prostitution in Scotland
OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2025 09:05

Good thread of interviews from Gina Davidson here: https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1924831942358245640

https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1924831942358245640

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 09:16

OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2025 08:01

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Holy moly.

I suppose I'm still quite naive.

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Christinapple · 21/05/2025 11:08

MassiveWordSalad · 21/05/2025 07:44

Why are you against the Nordic Model, @Christinapple? I’d genuinely like to hear some debate on this issue.

This is from the online version of the Daily Record article mentioned above

"Scottish sex workers have responded to the Regan Bill by launching a campaign to fight the proposed new law.

The ‘Scotland for Decrim’ has warned that the laws would “put them in more danger”, push the industry underground and expose people to more violence.
A spokesperson for the campaign said: “Scotland for Decrim absolutely rejects Ash Regan’s attempts to bring in the Nordic Model on sex work in Scotland. As a sex worker-led coalition campaigning for our rights, we know that this offensive bill will endanger sex workers by exposing us to more violence, poverty, and exploitation. Criminalising clients does not solve the reasons why people go into sex work: because of financial need, caring responsibilities, disability, or simply preferring this work to other kinds of work.

Sex workers are the experts on our own needs. We know that only full decriminalisation will protect our safety, health, and human rights, giving us the power to choose when and how we work. The Scottish Government must also urgently strengthen the social security system so that everyone has access to the resources they need to live, and so that no one has to do sex work if they don’t want to."

Scotland for Decrim have a website here (I have linked to their page about the Nordic Model). They are made up of current and former sex workers. They claim "Scottish sex workers overwhelmingly oppose plans to introduce the Nordic Model."
https://scotlandfordecrim.org/why-scotland-needs-decrim/why-not-the-nordic-model/

BiologicalRobot · 21/05/2025 12:02

I hope she gets it through parliament. It is absolutely shocking how men think it's okay to buy women. Iirc Amnesty International had (maybe still have) similar problems to Oxfam where their supposed charity workers bought women (and girls) for sex in poor/badly affected areas.

pinkingshears · 21/05/2025 12:16

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 09:16

Holy moly.

I suppose I'm still quite naive.

Yes, quite a few MSP's pay for sex. So do many male lawyers and Advocates.
Also, one of the busiest weeks in the Edinburgh Sauna calendar is the annual Church of Scotland General Assembly week ("Holy perv week")

(Anecdata from the time I helped with a project that worked with both Sauna workers and street workers in Edinburgh. Of those I got the chance to speak to properly, every single woman had a background of abuse in some way so that their boundaries had been extensively altered from normal. It would not be possible to do the job otherwise, particularly in the saunas where you can't be drunk/drugged up enough to 'get you through' the extremly grim work otherwise)

I applaud Ash Regan's Bill and hope it creates a more honest conversation even if it does not succeed (it won't, too many vested interests I fear)

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 13:48

pinkingshears · 21/05/2025 12:16

Yes, quite a few MSP's pay for sex. So do many male lawyers and Advocates.
Also, one of the busiest weeks in the Edinburgh Sauna calendar is the annual Church of Scotland General Assembly week ("Holy perv week")

(Anecdata from the time I helped with a project that worked with both Sauna workers and street workers in Edinburgh. Of those I got the chance to speak to properly, every single woman had a background of abuse in some way so that their boundaries had been extensively altered from normal. It would not be possible to do the job otherwise, particularly in the saunas where you can't be drunk/drugged up enough to 'get you through' the extremly grim work otherwise)

I applaud Ash Regan's Bill and hope it creates a more honest conversation even if it does not succeed (it won't, too many vested interests I fear)

Yes. Most sex workers I've known have had serious substance issues.

Regan's bill has provision for extra support for sex workers, which seems essential.

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ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 13:51

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)01799-3/fulltext

'The Nordic Model does not make prostitution safe any more than full decriminalisation does, because nothing can make it safe for women. However, when it is well implemented, the Nordic Model can reduce the amount of prostitution that takes place and the number of new women being drawn into it by reducing the demand. It also provides routes out for individuals embedded in it.
The acting Anti-trafficking Coordinator for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, Andrea Salvoni, considers their current strategy for defeating human trafficking to be a failure and has recommended a focus instead on addressing the demand that fosters trafficking for sexual exploitation.8 This demand is the same as that which fosters sexual exploitation within a state.'

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