Labour Party true colours shining through? Hint - pink not red!

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Apparently having a Women’s Conference would , among other things, stop transwomen from participating in the democratic process. Don’t understand this, surely they would be cheered to the rafters for being brave and beautiful if they stood up and spoke at the National Conference , took part in robust debate and proved they weren’t one issue trick ponies who cared as much about wider national and international policies as they do about their pronouns.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/20/labour-to-cancel-its-womens-conference-after-supreme-court-gender-ruling

The telegraph article makes more sense, I've linked it with a gift token below

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/d4e9036b28e57b38

Ah the Labour party, guaranteed to disappoint.

Back in 2018 I would probably have said, include a few transwomen, what's the harm? Well now we know what the harm is and they are open about it - they told the Guardian that transwomen's issue take up a lot of time at the Women's Conference.

And we know the solution too. Transmen and female nonbinaries can still go to the women's conference and have their own panels ot workshop or whatever. And if they want to discuss trans issues with male trans people then trans people can organise their own Labour trans event. Don't they have an LGBT* event anyway?

It is helpfully becoming very obviously about men and not about TQ, as TQ women won't do any more than any other women will.

It is however disgusting that all women must always lose everything rather than withstanding the tantrums and dramas of a tiny number of fantastically self absorbed men.

This may be what happens, I think - with organisations who can't bear to exclude men from women's things - just cancel the women's things altogether. So either way, women lose.

Good god, they are SUCH spineless cowards. Yet more trying to brush women under the carpet because it's just all too inconvenient. It's beyond pathetic

Suzanne Moore sums it up.

So women should join a progressive party like.. Reform? Labour is beyond ridiculous.

They'll end up being sued for it then will have to say no to the men

Does anyone know where to protest about this, please? I'm a Labour member and a member of the LWD and this is ridiculous!

Thank you. I think the final paragraph really sums up how cowardly this action is and how damaging it is for women who are trying to support Labour policies despite the Party’s inability to support them.

The Labour Party has found a very convenient set of barricades to hide behind in the pretence that it is for security , the inability to cope with protests, and fear of legal action if they “get it wrong” .

And I can’t actually understand why the ruling affects the issue of having women only shortlists. OK, they were previously based on self id, but if now they are to be based on biological id, a non edited birth certificate, or other proof of biological identity as a woman wouldn’t be too hard to find surely, and produce, even as far as producing a mouth swab for testing as some female athletes do without the world imploding. Not an insurmountable problem, assuming of course that you have the willingness to make it happen in the first place.

It is ridiculous when you consider it all has rolled this far because of the lack of value of women to politicians of all ilk and the establishment in general, combined with the fear of saying no to a difficult, noisy group of men. And let's be honest, it's only the men they're bothered about. The fear of the behaviour. It's classic safeguarding fail: actions dictated not by what is right or by policy but by what avoids experiencing tantrums from difficult adults.

And now with law finally insisting on women's rights and equalities, the answer is that rather than deal with those men's behaviours, just to not let women have anything that the men might kick off about.

Women: you can submit to men, or other men just won't let you have anything at all.

Look, fuck this. Really. Labour had the guts to freeze pensioners, put disabled people in terrible difficulties, are about to take a bomb to SEND provision for kids, are trying to undo Brexit and fuck up employment, all in under a year, while bravely ignoring the general public's views and reactions - but this lobby? They seem absolutely pants wettingly terrified of.

Do you think Labour have a bet with someone on how badly they can fuck up and alienate every single segment of society? Old, disabled, patriotic, women, people who value free speech, people who voted for Brexit, even TRAs hate them!

Is it just me or is that Guardian photo a bit repulsive? Contrast with the photo of Susan Smith and Marion Calder outside the Supreme Court after the udgment, looking like women who Got Shit Done.

From that Telegraph article...

Confidential advice sent to members of the National Executive Committee (NEC) recommends that they cancel the event in order to avoid legal action and political embarrassment.

The document sets out that the “only legally defensible alternative” would be to limit the event to biological women, but does not explain why this is not the preferred option.

It doesn’t need to explain as the reason is quite simple: cowardice.

Disgusting bunch of pathetic, pandering sacks of skin.

I presume they are worried about the same sort of shenanigans experienced by Sister Salon the other day, and from their own members which will embarrass them.

Given Labour have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to accept women as adult human females with rights I wouldn't be shocked if there was an element of punishment to this decision too. Pesky women couldn't do as they were told so now they can't have nice things.

And when Just Stop Oil sit down everywhere and glue themselves to things? They get arrested.

If women put up a sticker they get arrested.

But a small political lobby might scream, shout in balaclavas, set off fire alarms and behave badly and they have to cancel everything in terror?

Every single bloody women's event for years has involved this lobby screaming, shouting, banging on windows, chalking rude words and clowning around, and women have just been expected to get on with it. And they have. What's the difference?

Why can’t the women demand a conference or was it only ever a thing because men who identify as women wanted one?

This.
What a complete dead loss they are for women.

Surely you write to them and tell them your view?

Couldn’t Labour Women’s Network organise their own conference? I realise it might have to be scaled back, but I think lots of women would be happy to pay to go?

I've put in a complaint to the party.

There's a fundamental question at stake here.
Can women meet without males present or not?

The labour party isn't willing to defend that women can meet without men present? They are afraid of protests? Whatever happened to "without fear or favour"? Whatever happened to "principles" and "courage of conviction"?

This is not being spineless... I think the labour party genuinely does not believe that women can meet without any males present.

Women mean nothing to anyone ... if we can't accept men in our spaces, the spaces will quite simply be removed.