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Police could search women's homes and phones after pregnancy loss

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IwantToRetire · 19/05/2025 01:05

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and famil y, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

Details are also provided for how police could bypass legal requirements for a court order to obtain medical records about a woman’s abortion from NHS providers.

Abortion law in the UK is based on the Offences Against the Person Act from 1861. In recent years, an increasing number of women have been investigated and prosecuted under this law. The Abortion Act of 1967 allows women to end their pregnancies under medical supervision up to 24 weeks, or beyond in certain circumstances, such as if the life of the mother is at risk or if the foetus has a serious abnormality.

The guidance replace s a 2014 document that did not mention investigating stillbirths, but had one mention of investigating women who may have had an illegal abortion. The new guidance, published in January and developed by a sub-group of the NPCC’s Homicide Working Group alongside the College of Policing, National Crime Agency and Metropolitan Police, covers the scenario over several pages.

The lead authors were Ch Sup t Liz Hughes of Avon and Somerset police force; Det Sup t Jon Holmes of Lancashire; DCS David Ashton of Durham; Ch Sup t Fiona Bitters of Hampshire and Isle of Wight; Sonya Baylis, of the National Crime Agency; and D S Robert Simmons of Suffolk.

Article continues at https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

Police could search homes and phones after pregnancy loss | The Observer

Police could search homes and phones after pregnancy loss | The Observer

New national guidance suggests officers look for menstrual tracking apps or abortion drugs

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

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JenniferBooth · 08/06/2025 17:17

even if it is effective in forcing women to continue with unwanted pregnancies

These guidelines have changed after the birth rate has fallen and they were whining that women werent having enough children or not having them at all.
Coincidence?!

MedievalNun · 08/06/2025 18:04

Just to add, this list is the MPs who have signed up to NC-20 which is designed to enshrine abortion into law. If your MP isn’t on it - which is highly likely tbh - write and ask them why. And if they support the police guidelines and why.

Police could search women's homes and phones after pregnancy loss
Police could search women's homes and phones after pregnancy loss
MatildaMovesMountains · 08/06/2025 18:29

MedievalNun · 08/06/2025 18:04

Just to add, this list is the MPs who have signed up to NC-20 which is designed to enshrine abortion into law. If your MP isn’t on it - which is highly likely tbh - write and ask them why. And if they support the police guidelines and why.

Do you have a link to this?

Brefugee · 08/06/2025 19:21

MatildaMovesMountains · 08/06/2025 18:29

Do you have a link to this?

An alphabetical list would be more useful

LostArrows · 08/06/2025 21:03

I see no benefit to this. If medication is found who can prove if the woman or a partner did it. An abusive partner could even access the woman's phone to put search items there.

Women actually doing it will know to hide it.
Women who's partners have done it could be blamed.
Women where no medication was involved will be stressed out about tidying up knowing people are coming and seeing the house/judging living conditions instead of recovering and letting things slide a bit while processing the trauma.

MedievalNun · 09/06/2025 15:11

MatildaMovesMountains · 08/06/2025 18:29

Do you have a link to this?

I don’t I’m afraid, I’ve just asked the petition organisers on Threads for their list (look for Stella Creasy)

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