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"BBC boss vows to tackle Britain's 'crisis of trust'"

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Chersfrozenface · 14/05/2025 09:26

Headline on the BBC News site.

The BBC are in no position to lecture anyone on trust when they describe convicted male offenders as women and refuse to back down even after receiving numerous complaints.

Tossers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg5p8z27z8o

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SerendipityJane · 14/05/2025 09:33

For some reason I am reminded of the time the Student Union and my Uni had a committee meeting, and it was pointed out that they hadn't reached a quorum.

So they held a vote on amending the number of members needed for a quorum ...

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/05/2025 12:40

'Mr Davie added: "The future of our civilised, cohesive, democratic society is, for the first time in my life, at risk."

Considering the BBC are one of the organisation that have help fuel the 'crisis of trust' they're not likely to be able to help tackle the crisis.

Usual trick, create a monster, then put yourself forward as the only one who can defeat the monster. It's not going to work, and it's not going to stop people form not paying the TV licence.

LizzieSiddal · 14/05/2025 14:16

What the BBC which has been gaslighting its viewers and listeners with TWAW/No Debate/CBBC pushing puberty blockers and NOT letting anyone discuss what a woman is on Womans Hour.

They can F right off!

user101101 · 14/05/2025 14:20

When I saw the title I thought they were going to tackle the lack of trust people had in the BBC...
Glad I don't have a TV/don't pay for a TV licence

SerendipityJane · 14/05/2025 14:24

Funny how the BBC achieves the superhuman effort of ensuring bubbles never meet. Farage on Womens hour giving the Reform perspective* is probably the same as matter and antimatter.

*No point in even trying to research it.

RedToothBrush · 14/05/2025 14:41

You can only deal with the issue of trust by listening rather than having training programmes telling you how to think.

This starts inhouse with their own culture of creating an environment where there is a plurality of thinking and views.

They are trying to blame it on the public somehow for not being trusting.

The problem IS the top down nature of things.

EasternStandard · 14/05/2025 14:45

user101101 · 14/05/2025 14:20

When I saw the title I thought they were going to tackle the lack of trust people had in the BBC...
Glad I don't have a TV/don't pay for a TV licence

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Talk about lacking self awareness. The BBC that is, I agree with you.

SerendipityJane · 14/05/2025 14:51

You can only deal with the issue of trust by listening rather than having training programmes telling you how to think.

Balance would be a start.

Misspotterer · 14/05/2025 14:59

Trust! The BBC that sent a burly man to my door when I was a lone parent with a newborn who tried to force his way into my home by jamming his foot in my door? The same BBC who recently sent a letter threatening to do it again at my new address 16 years later? They can fuck off. Haven't had a licence for 16 years. Don't need one.

user101101 · 14/05/2025 19:53

Misspotterer · 14/05/2025 14:59

Trust! The BBC that sent a burly man to my door when I was a lone parent with a newborn who tried to force his way into my home by jamming his foot in my door? The same BBC who recently sent a letter threatening to do it again at my new address 16 years later? They can fuck off. Haven't had a licence for 16 years. Don't need one.

Bloody hell, total thugs

SionnachRuadh · 14/05/2025 20:40

The thing is, when you've had years and years of the political class and their media allies blatantly lying to the public, you can't then have the boss of the BBC turn around and say there's a crisis of trust, and the BBC is going to train children to spot disinformation.

It's not just genderwoo, it's a host of issues, and it's reached the point where even normies are beginning to realise that BBC Verify is a joke.

It's fashionable to sneer at GB News, but a regular GBN viewer would not have been shocked by the recent Supreme Court ruling. While someone who gets all her news from the BBC would have been saying "where the fuck did that come from?"

TheCatsTongue · 14/05/2025 20:53

I think the BBC are improving, it's particularly helpful when they discuss most issues through the medium of drag.

TheOtherRaven · 14/05/2025 21:05

I wonder if they've considered having Mens Hour on radio 4 on which obviously women would discuss men and men's matters entirely through a lens of women and what best suits them?

Since Woman's Hour is entirely devoted to men. And the news reporting is heavily biased and selective to push their RightThink.

The BBC are dead, decayed and over, they should have been stripped of the licence fee years ago. Even Call the Midwife began well but ended up like being beaten heavily over the head with a rolled up copy of the Guardian presoaked in glucose syrup.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 16/05/2025 09:22

SerendipityJane · 14/05/2025 14:51

You can only deal with the issue of trust by listening rather than having training programmes telling you how to think.

Balance would be a start.

If it's genuine balance. Fact with fact, expert with expert.

Which only works when there are facts and genuine experts on both sides.

SerendipityJane · 16/05/2025 09:43

NoBinturongsHereMate · 16/05/2025 09:22

If it's genuine balance. Fact with fact, expert with expert.

Which only works when there are facts and genuine experts on both sides.

Dara O'Briain gave a perfect example of "balance" in one of his show. When recording "Stargazing Live" he and Prof.Brian Cox were going to do a segment about faraway stars and how their existence is currently understand to have come about. Apparently the BBC said "well, obviously that is one point of view, so we'll get an astrologer on just for balance".

In the end it didn't happen, and it's hard not to feel that the comedic denouement had a hint of truth in it ..

"No, you can't give your world view because you go to work in a cape ...."

BBC "balance" is any old squeaky wheel gets to drive.

GCAcademic · 16/05/2025 09:49

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/05/2025 12:40

'Mr Davie added: "The future of our civilised, cohesive, democratic society is, for the first time in my life, at risk."

Considering the BBC are one of the organisation that have help fuel the 'crisis of trust' they're not likely to be able to help tackle the crisis.

Usual trick, create a monster, then put yourself forward as the only one who can defeat the monster. It's not going to work, and it's not going to stop people form not paying the TV licence.

And undoubtedly they think that the future of a "civlised, cohesive, democratic society" is at risk because the plebs are not thinking correctly. And that it's the BBC's job to make sure they do so.

If anything, they'll be doubling down.

SerendipityJane · 16/05/2025 10:46

GCAcademic · 16/05/2025 09:49

And undoubtedly they think that the future of a "civlised, cohesive, democratic society" is at risk because the plebs are not thinking correctly. And that it's the BBC's job to make sure they do so.

If anything, they'll be doubling down.

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"Indoctrinate" is not a precis of "Inform, educate and entertain"

GCAcademic · 16/05/2025 11:12

SerendipityJane · 16/05/2025 10:46

"Indoctrinate" is not a precis of "Inform, educate and entertain"

It is in their book!

EasternStandard · 17/05/2025 16:35

GCAcademic · 16/05/2025 09:49

And undoubtedly they think that the future of a "civlised, cohesive, democratic society" is at risk because the plebs are not thinking correctly. And that it's the BBC's job to make sure they do so.

If anything, they'll be doubling down.

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They know to look at what to tell children in that article. You’re not doing it properly unless you get in early.

Chersfrozenface · 17/05/2025 17:20

EasternStandard · 17/05/2025 16:35

They know to look at what to tell children in that article. You’re not doing it properly unless you get in early.

"Give me a child till he is seven years old..."

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SerendipityJane · 17/05/2025 17:52

Chersfrozenface · 17/05/2025 17:20

"Give me a child till he is seven years old..."

Unfortunately, that has a rather more sinister meaning if we are talking about the BBC.

Chersfrozenface · 17/05/2025 18:00

SerendipityJane · 17/05/2025 17:52

Unfortunately, that has a rather more sinister meaning if we are talking about the BBC.

TBH, I think it has a fairly sinister meaning in many contexts.

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GarlicPile · 17/05/2025 18:29

The BBC's future would involve "doubling down on impartiality, championing free, fair reporting alongside landmark investigative journalism, investing in BBC Verify and InDepth as well as increasing transparency and holding our nerve amidst culture wars", he said.

Davie continued, "With BBC's well-known support for sex offenders, including child abusers, its commitment to medical experiments on child subjects, and its influential campaigns to replace women with lipstick-wearing men, we have demonstrated that the Beeb is forward-thinking, inclusive and disruptive. We consolidate our authoritative position by providing a range of viewpoints on most topics, inclusively platforming uninformed opinion alongside experts.

"Someone recently reminded me of an old newsroom joke: that, when the Met Office tells you it's raining, you don't get someone in to argue that it's not raining; you look out of the window! Well, we tried that at the BBC but we can't see outside because all the windows are covered in Trans Pride flags. This is why we featured Munroe Bergdorf on video link from Arizona, commenting on the dry weather."

Tim Davie has repeatedly faced down pressure to resign. "I haven't finished paying for my house in St Lucia yet", he explained.

(*This is a work of imaginative fiction)

TempestTost · 17/05/2025 18:44

When organizations like the BBC start thinking about trust they seem to jump right on to ideas around misinformation and fact checking.

What they miss is that usually, it's not directly incorrect fact that are the issue. It's that they are not covering stories or omitting facts, or are not asking questions that would reveal the "wrong" answers.

The biggest things they could probably do would be to hire a whole new set of journalists, producers and researchers who are politically conservative, with most being from working class backgrounds and not university educated. And then let them report on whatever they want.

SionnachRuadh · 17/05/2025 18:55

The biggest things they could probably do would be to hire a whole new set of journalists, producers and researchers who are politically conservative, with most being from working class backgrounds and not university educated. And then let them report on whatever they want.

I go along with Matt Goodwin's rule that it's useful to look at the BBC website every morning to see what the political class want you to think.

To look at the BBC, you would imagine Keir Starmer is a universally respected statesman. You'd never guess that the polls are currently showing him at a -46 approval rating, putting him in the same ballpark as beloved public figures like Meghan Markle and Tommy Robinson.