Pushback continues, just unbelievable

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The nonprofit legal organisation Good Law Project (GLP), which has raised more than £284,000 to challenge the supreme court’s judgment, said it was working on about 20 related legal initiatives, including one case already before the courts. In an update to donors, GLP added it had instructed an expert team to produce legal advice on what the court’s decision meant and would produce guidance for the trans community on what to do if they are challenged for using the spaces that align with their gender.

www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/02/lgbtq-charities-warn-genuine-crisis-trans-people-uk-ruling

Yeah but to be fair, they haven’t won one case in any they’ve brought, the fox killer only has a passing acquaintance with sanity and possesses the reading comprehension of a slug. They’re grifting. They’re a truly transphobic (in the actual definition of the word) outfit. They are playing on the fears of trans people to scam money off them. They know they have no hope of winning, but it’s easy money. They’re no better than the telephone scammers or door to door salesmen who prey on the elderly.

Lots of people who know little about the bigger picture have donated money ‘in solidarity’ with what they understand as being a travesty of justice. TRAs are not know for putting their hands in their pockets, I expect most donations were from well intentioned left leaning folk who are not engaged with the issues beyond an interest of not wanting people ‘being marginalised for being different’. I expect they have bought into the narrative that the ruling went the way it did as it was influenced by Trump’s executive orders and anti trans groups.
I expect they are viewing the GLP’s funder as a beacon by which people’s support can be tangibly communicated.

Anyone who reads the ruling can see that the conclusions drawn are the only conclusions that can be drawn and that there is nothing ‘anti trans about it’. However, zooming out, it isn’t a stretch to see how problematic this is to people and organisations who have been acting unlawfully.

There is no general public appetite for sex as a category to be removed in law. If a ECtHR ruling determined this (which I don’t think it will), that is likely to mean UK will opt out of the ECHR. There will be no appetite from any UK government to undermine or diminish sex based protections. They may well want to strengthen protections for people with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment. This might include things like a requirement for third spaces in certain circumstances.

If/ when the duties placed on organisations to meet all needs is understood by the general public, I think much of the outpouring of sympathy will wane. Once the ‘we just need somewhere to pee’ is countered with, ‘yes, providers have to provide this safe, dignified place (which is a perfectly suitable alternative to using the female provision) not many people will want to donate money.

As has become the mantra on this board since the ruling, the sooner activists and organisations accept that provision designated for a single sex must be for users from one of the 2 sexes, the sooner they will be able to meet the needs of trans people who aren’t eligible to access the one they want. This will sort the wheat from the chaff. Those who want trans people to be included in society will engage. Those who are seeking identity validation (or worse) through accessing provision for the opposite sex won’t. This will become more and more transparent

Let them. The good law project has never won a single case. If people want to waste their money donating to them in some vague hope a bunch of top secret projects will change a supreme court clarification, I say let them.

The Fox Botherer is a laughably inept grifter

https://thecritic.co.uk/bad-law-project/

The activists will never accept the judgement, it's just not going to happen, but as more cases happen insurance companies will.

And as that happens taking legal advice from them will get less and less appealing.

The real question I think is not about the law as it stands, the real question is whether the government particularly Labour will continue to recognise that they have very limited public support to introduce new laws on this and use voter mood to determine if they will touch the issue again. It absolutely featured in the US election which for such a minority issue it should never have but it is the pinnacle of woke ness so it did. There is clearly a vocal minority shouting about this issue now but they now blatantly do not carry public opinion and over time their support is dropping not growing. Over time the real implications of their demands have been laid bare and they are unpalatable to the majority.

The law is extremely clear has it stands, a 5 judge court unanimous ruling doesn’t even leave a chink in this decision.

What is the next level of appeal? I thought this was final?

There isn't one. I think the idea is to go to the European court of human rights. But they have little to no say in UK law.

The other more logical thing to to get the law changed openly and honestly through parliament, but that takes years, and they know they don't have the support for doing it openly.

I may have rose tinted glasses on but there are possibly some green shoots in that article. It does seem to insinuate a move towards looking for alternative solutions for trans people, to that of using wrong sex facilities.

So long as a firm line is maintained re single sex provision, TRA organisations who really care about those they say they advocate for, will shift their efforts to alternative solutions that are the ‘next best’ solution.

I understand the huge compromise this will entail for TRAs. They regard denial of access as, in itself, a denial of dignity and respect for their identity. Therefore, looking to alternative solutions to afford dignity seems futile, as the need to do so is, in itself an affront.

I think this is where the seas will part, once everything calms down. Most people, will view a ‘good enough, whilst not ideal solution’ for 0.05% of the population, alongside a good solution for 51% of the population, the best way forward.

I think the local elections give us the answer to that!

It was really only a matter of time before public opinion cottoned on to the issue and they clearly knew it with the whole #nodebate thing trying to buy more time to push policies like self ID through. I think the time for changing the law is well and truly over. That hasn't stopped me writing to my MP regarding the upcoming self ID debate though.

Time to post the Good Law Project failure spreadsheet again.
https://labourpainsblog.com/2025/04/25/trans-rights-help-us-keep-the-good-law-project-going/
GLP raised 512,452 to take on 8 cases on trans matters between 2020 and 2024 which are now concluded. All of them failed and had no positive results. In fact some even backfired.

190k raised to defend the Tavistock. No results showing conclusively there was no way to defend legally the corrupt and dangerous things going on there and enhanced the shift inside the NHS to change course.

83k raised for their failed case against LGB Alliance which confirmed their charity status in law and gave them good publicity.

60k raised for their failed attempt to prevent the puberty blockers ban via judicial Review resulted in helping push NHS/Streeting more in a reality direction, strengthened the status of the Cass Review further and led to the Louis Appleby review.

Professor Appleby was asked by the Secretary of State to conduct the review following claims made by campaigners suggesting a rise in suicide rates.
The report concluded the data does not support these claims and found “the way this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide.”
https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/07/19/dhsc-response-to-professor-louis-appleby-review/

There are three GLP current crowdfunders since the supreme court win with the biggest with over three hundred thousand raised. They will also fail. In fact by failing they will make the TA cause look weaker, and possibly further establish in case law more reasons why biology exists. If they actually get to the ECHR [very unlikely as they have no grounds] it is very possible they may might fail spectacularly and and undermine the TA cause across Europe.

GLP is both a grift and a genuine TA support group. In that TA stuff is often performative it is about drama over substance. It is about stoking egos, feeling valid through lies, keeping money flowing not results. They are not good lawyers. Joylon in fact was a TAX lawyer for most of his career which tells you something about his natural priorities.

Meanwhile other gardens are blooming. The pro-women side win court cases very frequently and our lawyers are very very good. Since 2018 we have been wrecking the TAs in the courts. The more they focus on doomed legal arguments the better.

The list of stuff that the GLP is planning, detailed in the OP, make it look like people are getting something for their money. But they aren't. If they wait a while, Baroness Falkner and her team will let them know for free.

So many of my friends are posting stuff on Facebook like the BMA statement. I am desperate to comment, but I know how that would go. I'm an adopter - so many adopted kids are trans and their parents are all on board with it.