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'Unacceptable' to question Supreme Court gender ruling, says Lord High Chancellor

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fromorbit · 01/05/2025 01:15

The justice secretary has said it is "absolutely unacceptable" to question the validity of the Supreme Court after it ruled that the term "woman" is defined by biological sex.
Speaking to Parliament's Human Rights Joint Committee, Shabana Mahmood said judges at the UK's highest court "provided the legal clarity in their legal decision which is exactly their job".
The decision was seen as a victory by women's rights groups but some trans campaigners have argued it did not take into account their view of the complexities of biology and a transgender former judge says she plans to bring an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights .
Mahmood said: "It's disappointing... that some individuals have sought to question the validity of the Supreme Court or cast aspersions..."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwvx1z3l2qo

Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood speaks to the Human Rights Committee on 30 April 2025

'Unacceptable' to question Supreme Court gender ruling, says justice secretary

Shabana Mahmood said judges at the UK's highest court had provided "legal clarity".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwvx1z3l2qo

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NotNatacha · 01/05/2025 02:37

From the article:
The Supreme Court ruling was the culmination of a long-running legal battle brought by campaign group For Women Scotland, which had argued that sex-based protections should only apply to people that are born female. The group had argued that women felt unsafe with trans women using female facilities.

That’s not right, is it? Sex-based protections apply to men, too. I thought it was people born female can use women’s spaces and people born male can use male spaces.

AlexandraLeaving · 01/05/2025 03:31

NotNatacha · 01/05/2025 02:37

From the article:
The Supreme Court ruling was the culmination of a long-running legal battle brought by campaign group For Women Scotland, which had argued that sex-based protections should only apply to people that are born female. The group had argued that women felt unsafe with trans women using female facilities.

That’s not right, is it? Sex-based protections apply to men, too. I thought it was people born female can use women’s spaces and people born male can use male spaces.

You are correct. It isn’t.

They have improved their commentary a bit if they are now saying that the ruling defined the WORD ‘woman’ in terms of biology, as opposed to saying that ‘women’ are defined by (which feels like ‘are reduced to/limited by’j biology. But this is a new wrong. And one that diminishes the issue again. Silly women feeling unsafe. As opposed to brave women wanting to preserve their sex-based anti-discrimination rights and protections.

But perhaps more importantly, great that Shabana Mahmoud is saying this in defence of the SC.

DworkinWasRight · 01/05/2025 03:51

NotNatacha · 01/05/2025 02:37

From the article:
The Supreme Court ruling was the culmination of a long-running legal battle brought by campaign group For Women Scotland, which had argued that sex-based protections should only apply to people that are born female. The group had argued that women felt unsafe with trans women using female facilities.

That’s not right, is it? Sex-based protections apply to men, too. I thought it was people born female can use women’s spaces and people born male can use male spaces.

You’re right.

NotNatacha · 01/05/2025 11:23

I’ve sent an email to their errors address, pointing this out. I’ve never done that before

It will be interesting to see if it changes.

Grammarnut · 01/05/2025 14:33

Lord Chancellor - though gender woo has made the UK look as if it is, it isn't a province of Gilbert and Sullivan (yet). Ask MN to amend?

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