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Private Eye on the Supreme Court judgment

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Manderleyagain · 30/04/2025 13:51

I hope the images appear the right way around.

'Lady Justice' has covered the supreme court ruling, and how Starmer and others have struggled with the issue.

Private Eye on the Supreme Court judgment
Private Eye on the Supreme Court judgment
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NebulousCatWhistler · 01/03/2026 15:41

Nah @SionnachRuadh I don't think so. Grizelda has very occasionally done mildly terfy cartoons like this before and that's as far as it goes.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/03/2026 16:12

Datun · 30/04/2025 14:34

Mumsnet gets a mention, but it's followed up with a bit of ageism. Still, at least they're talking about it

Yes, it certainly isn’t just middle-aged women who are critical of what has been happening.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/03/2026 16:15

RoseAndGeranium · 30/04/2025 21:53

I found that piece, like just about everything Private Eye has done on this issue, which isn't much, extremely disappointing. The hand-waving 'both sides!' tone is a real cop out and to give special mention to Wes Streeting whilst completely ignoring the fact that Kemi Badenoch led the charge against the gender nuts in Parliament, and Sajid Javid commissioned the Cass Review (I think at Kemi's urging) is either so careless as to be insulting, or actively partisan. Bad, bad, bad. I'm sorry I forgot to cancel my subscription last time it came round. I won't make that mistake again.

completely ignoring the fact that Kemi Badenoch led the charge against the gender nuts in Parliament, and Sajid Javid commissioned the Cass Review (I think at Kemi's urging) is either so careless as to be insulting, or actively partisan.

Yes.

SionnachRuadh · 01/03/2026 17:16

I suppose it would be silly to expect a brave stance from Private Eye, which these days is regime court jester satire (see also: HIGNFY, Led By Donkeys, Count Binface)

Tunnockstester · 01/03/2026 17:28

I have just cancelled my PE subscription after 30+ years.
The final straw was the short paragraph criticising the FSU going to court to stop Bashback from publicising their donor list as though it was a free speech issue. PE did not name Bashback nor refer to their other criminal activities just wanted to have go at Toby Young.
Also, why hasn't Surrey County Council appeared in Rotten Boroughs after their association with rapist Stephen Ireland?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/03/2026 17:53

And the issue still is only the pooooooor 'fully transitioned' men and all their issues if they can't get in the ladies.

With no mention at all of the issues women have experienced for years. Because they're only women, aren't they? And it's not like their feelings or needs matter when someone with a penis is a bit sad and struggling? What are women for if not for soothing the fevered brows of the humans who actually matter?

And no mention of the fact that many of these men spew sexually violent threats and imagery - always directed towards women - the moment they are displeased, and that many of them experience sexual pleasure from being among women, in a state of undress, doing personal and intimate things. And also from coercively controlling those women and having the power over them of knowing those women are afraid and uncomfortable and can't say no to them. The open every day evidence of this is everywhere. From the men themselves.

Not to mention the many, MANY times women have explained how you cannot admit one man with issues but say no to another. There is no possible way to do this, which is explained in the law to anyone who can be bothered to read it. If it's Your Nigel then it's every man who wants to. And STILL - it's so tragic that men might not have their safe and comfy space - wtf are we going to do with the women left with nowhere at all once those men come in? Do they just not matter? Well let's be honest, we're past questioning it. No, to these men apparently women just don't matter beyond how they're useful to a man.

And then they wonder why GC women are a bit tetchy and uncooperative, and unwilling to - what? Come and hand over their rights like good girls?

My God these men.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/03/2026 17:59

HIGNFY has been a flat out boys club for years, it's been open knowledge, but I suppose it's a grim shock to realise just how much these men despise us and see us as worthless.

Particularly us ones past being a bit of tottie eh lads? What are they good for when the tits go saggy.

NebulousCatWhistler · 01/03/2026 18:04

ScrollingLeaves · 01/03/2026 16:15

completely ignoring the fact that Kemi Badenoch led the charge against the gender nuts in Parliament, and Sajid Javid commissioned the Cass Review (I think at Kemi's urging) is either so careless as to be insulting, or actively partisan.

Yes.

Private Eye unequivocally hate Kemi Badenoch. Have they ever said a good word about her?

Barbadossunset · 01/03/2026 18:06

SionnachRuadh · Today 17:16
I suppose it would be silly to expect a brave stance from Private Eye, which these days is regime court jester satire

Regime court jester satire is an excellent description. Private Eye & HIGNIFY are happy to lampoon the royal family, politicians, celebs etc.because they know they, the targets, won’t fight back.
Occasionally a billionaire gets annoyed and threatens to sue but PE etc love that - ‘look at us, we’re not afraid of billionaires & bigwigs, speaking truth to power etc’.
However when there’s a group of people such as the trans lobby who couldn’t care less if they break the law and will fight back in a really nasty way, then it’s a different matter.
The utter cowardice of Ian Hislop and Private Eye has been thoroughly exposed.

borntobequiet · 01/03/2026 19:56

I’ve been reading PE since 1968 and would have cancelled my subscription if it weren’t paid for by my daughter and she feels it matters to me.

Hislop has been an utter coward on this. Anything else as dishonest, stupid and toxic and they’d have been all over it years ago. Definitely a boys’ club, and public school, indulged boys at that. Very disappointed.

JustGoldMentor · 01/03/2026 19:59

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Manderleyagain · 02/03/2026 12:18

I did write to PE after my first post. They didn't print this time.
I decided to cancel my subscription because the whole thing annoys me so much. It's such a dereliction of duty. Only thing is my OH pays for it and he's never got round to cancelling, so it still arrives every fortnight!

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Shortshriftandlethal · 02/03/2026 12:48

I recall being a naive and idealistic 18 year old, freshly squatting in London, having come from Faslane peace camp and putting an ad in Private Eye ( like similar I'd seen in there before) asking if anyone wanted to sponsor a young woman to engage with and promote Left wing type values....

I got quite a few responses........suggesting the monthly amounts I would be paid to provide certain 'personal services' - 'no further strings attached'. One talking about his expected standards of "female pulchritude"...such an ugly word for beauty.

Certainly gave me an insight into the minds of many men who were subscribers in those days ( early 1980s). Definitely a salacious, seedy boys club. And I've never liked Ian Hislop.

Sammidge · 02/03/2026 13:14

borntobequiet · 01/03/2026 19:56

I’ve been reading PE since 1968 and would have cancelled my subscription if it weren’t paid for by my daughter and she feels it matters to me.

Hislop has been an utter coward on this. Anything else as dishonest, stupid and toxic and they’d have been all over it years ago. Definitely a boys’ club, and public school, indulged boys at that. Very disappointed.

You surely can't be me, can you? I'm in exactly the same position!

RoseAndGeranium · 02/03/2026 15:02

NebulousCatWhistler · 01/03/2026 18:04

Private Eye unequivocally hate Kemi Badenoch. Have they ever said a good word about her?

No, although I suppose Hislop would argue that saying nice things about politicians isn't really in their remit. A reluctance to give Badenoch any credit for anything has been pretty widespread in the media until recently, though, and I often wonder how much of that is because of the antipathy or apathy so many journalists feel towards the gender critical position. My own enthusiasm for Badenoch dates from watching her subcommittee appearances and parliamentary interventions on this issue. I was so impressed with how politically courageous and clear-eyed she was in describing what was happening to children in particular when nobody else in Westminster would touch the subject. She was incredibly well informed and absolutely immune to emotional blackmail and intimidation tactics of the TRAs -- I think that kind of moral focus and conviction is miserably rare in politicians. Yet it appears to have gone unnoticed by much of the press. Some time ago, for instance, I saw a piece in the FT that accused her of 'following Nigel Farage on trans rights', which either demonstrates the journalist's lazy, smug failure to follow an evolving medical and social scandal of catastrophic proportions (quite possible) or was a deliberate attempt to smear both Badenoch and the issue itself as 'far right' and 'Faragist/Brexity/populist'.

SionnachRuadh · 02/03/2026 15:38

There's been a bit of a Save Kemi operation from the media since September, which I think is partly that her PMQs performances are much better (lobby hacks think voters pay attention to PMQs), partly internal Tory politics, and partly panic about the possibility of the Conservative Party actually collapsing. But before then, the briefing against her was pretty vicious. It's one of those moments when you can almost see the sausage being made.

I have quite a bit of time for Kemi personally. She has her flaws - what politician doesn't? - but she's got obvious talent, really stood out in the last government (not a high bar but still), and it's a shame that she's become leader at a point when the party is moribund.

The Eye doesn't really give any politician credit, but there are some who get less credit than others. Oddly I think it's one of those cases where a woke boys' club has fewer redeeming features than the old non-woke boys' club. Maybe it's just that the old public school alcoholics had less moral smugness.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 02/03/2026 16:16

At this point in a lousy field she is becoming the only remotely sane choice left.

NebulousCatWhistler · 02/03/2026 16:26

RoseAndGeranium · 02/03/2026 15:02

No, although I suppose Hislop would argue that saying nice things about politicians isn't really in their remit. A reluctance to give Badenoch any credit for anything has been pretty widespread in the media until recently, though, and I often wonder how much of that is because of the antipathy or apathy so many journalists feel towards the gender critical position. My own enthusiasm for Badenoch dates from watching her subcommittee appearances and parliamentary interventions on this issue. I was so impressed with how politically courageous and clear-eyed she was in describing what was happening to children in particular when nobody else in Westminster would touch the subject. She was incredibly well informed and absolutely immune to emotional blackmail and intimidation tactics of the TRAs -- I think that kind of moral focus and conviction is miserably rare in politicians. Yet it appears to have gone unnoticed by much of the press. Some time ago, for instance, I saw a piece in the FT that accused her of 'following Nigel Farage on trans rights', which either demonstrates the journalist's lazy, smug failure to follow an evolving medical and social scandal of catastrophic proportions (quite possible) or was a deliberate attempt to smear both Badenoch and the issue itself as 'far right' and 'Faragist/Brexity/populist'.

I know they're never nice but I sense a bit of extra spite and I wonder why. Some politicians are obviously incompetent or corrupt, Badenoch isn't.

My own enthusiasm for Badenoch dates from watching her subcommittee appearances and parliamentary interventions on this issue.

Mine too.

Lottapianos · 02/03/2026 16:42

'My own enthusiasm for Badenoch dates from watching her subcommittee appearances and parliamentary interventions on this issue.
Mine too.'

Same here. I'm never ever voting Tory but she was very impressive as Women's Shadow minister - clearly on top of the facts, passionate and articulate, and a staunch ally to women in ttr face of the gender ideology madness

dubaichocolate · 02/03/2026 21:23

Agree on Kemi. I hope the Tories at least give her a fair crack of the whip at being leader. I remember when there was a religion issue Helen Joyce praising her for not taking the obvious knee jerk position and being on top of it, in the same way as with the gender stuff.

SqueakyDinosaur · 02/03/2026 23:06

Kemi has some pretty appalling views. I don't think it serves us well to align blindly with the right, just because the left has gone completely mad.

RoseAndGeranium · 03/03/2026 07:25

SqueakyDinosaur · 02/03/2026 23:06

Kemi has some pretty appalling views. I don't think it serves us well to align blindly with the right, just because the left has gone completely mad.

Can you be more specific?

WittyLimeBiscuit · 03/03/2026 07:33

Manderleyagain · 30/04/2025 13:51

I hope the images appear the right way around.

'Lady Justice' has covered the supreme court ruling, and how Starmer and others have struggled with the issue.

Great piece, thanks for sharing.
Labour does seem to have a 'woman' problem.

Lalgarh · 22/03/2026 14:10

Aiiii · 30/04/2025 16:30

Helen Lewis, who contributes to Private Eye, as well as The Atlantic etc, has expressed some GC views on their fortnightly podcast; I've wondered in the past if Ian Hislop has pulled his punches because of a young trans relative or friend's child. I'd prefer that, as a long term PE subscriber, to the thought that he genuinely doesn't understand - or care - why women are so exercised by this matter. But...

Not quite on gender, but a related article on one of the past progressive writers who used to laud the sort of #bekind stuff everyone had signed up to.

Helen Lewis on Lindy West (v major US feminist In the 2010s. Fond of shit posting and wrote a blistering review of sex and the city 2) and the end of a certain kind of (intersectional? ) millennial feminism.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/lindy-west-millennial-feminism/686488/?gift=m0ZMuldkUxH-bFqLk5jx2jHox28WoFNbQkMfnKtBS7g

The Death of Millennial Feminism

Lindy West has unwittingly written the obituary for an era.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/lindy-west-millennial-feminism/686488/?gift=m0ZMuldkUxH-bFqLk5jx2jHox28WoFNbQkMfnKtBS7g

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 22/03/2026 19:15

Labour had a 'woman problem' long before the election and for the past decade. At this point it's moved past a 'problem' or something that can be fixed with mediation; it's an utter bloody mess and reaching the point of changing the locks and filing for a restraining order.