Green Party calls for single-sex guidance to be withdrawn

[RipleyJones]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g355v07l2o.amp

The Green Party have been a waste of space for a long time.

Do email your local candidates about this. I know that actually all the green councillors on my local council are either fully gender critical or committed to single sex spaces/provision at the very least.

I have made it clear to mine they have no hope of my vote at a General Election while the party continues with this policy.

Oh, I see we think alike.

And to think I used to vote for the Green Party….

Well they used to be all about the climate. They had one job, but now they've gone rogue.

I think the supportive lesbians could quite possibly be talking about transmen as there seems to be quite a number who are same sex attracted. Who knows!

Some of the lesbians might be straight women in a relationship with a man who claims he is a transwoman. Dr Upton claimed to be in a same sex relationship which would make his wife a lesbian by his and possibly her lights.

No, I don't think so.

I certainly can't vote for them any more.

I get where you are coming from. I am not a lawyer so I am not sure how likely it is this kind of thing could happen.

However remember your argument would actually require the TAs to fund a court case which further locks in the results of the case they despise because it involves admitting that Sex is real. If anything Stonewall and Mermaids might even argue against that kind of case

Secondly potentially it would be a complicated case to argue. They would need good lawyers. They would prefer to give Joylon money to fund fantasy cases.

Thirdly, we have good lawyers working for LGB alliance and Sex matters etc. They would intervene.

So not something to really worry about. The TAs are not going to do anything that clever. I mean look at Denyer she is hopeless if that is the TAs last hope they are sunk.

There are a lot of lesbians who do say they think it's fine to include males in their spaces, yes.

But that's not the issue here. It's a (deliberate) distraction, of the "THESE lesbians (aka the cool girls, along with others) don't mind men in their spaces, so why do you? Are you a prude or a bigot"

The issue, as it has always been, is "are lesbians who DON'T wish to include men in their spaces allowed to to say no?"

In other words, do lesbians who say they don't mind men in their intimate spaces, and other women who say THEY don't mind men in their intimate spaces have the right to compel and coerce the women who have clearly said they DON'T want males in their spaces, to include males and to remove the women's boundaries, despite their clear lack of consent?

It was the bit about the British tradition of tolerance that made me bite my tongue. We haven't had much toleration of women's need for sex segregated spaces either from the Green Party or from trans people. The cheek of it.

The issue is sexual orientation based on sex. Not, as the Supreme Court said, a certificate.

I don't care how many activists want to pretend otherwise. They will, and this is just a wild guest, be outnumbered a billion to one by everybody else.

I remember when the green party was the party for the environment, why don't they just change their name to the gender woo party or the male entitlement party if this is how they choose to go down?

I mean, you'd have THOUGHT that the state of the planet would be quite a big issue for the Greens right now, but apparently this is merely secondary to the Great Puberty Blocker Leap Forward.

Given that the GPBLF relies on preventing natural development in children's bodies through drugs if they don't appropriately fit some deeply conservative idea of the "correct" behaviour, looks and interests for their sex, and then giving them chemically manufactured opposite-sex hormones to try to make them "fit" what you imagine the opposite sex should be thus "correcting" what's supposedly wrong with them, which often lead to early-onset osteoporosis, lack of sexual function and multiple long term health issues, is obviously a totally "Green" policy in all ways imaginable.

Most organisations already provide single sex, it won't be too difficult to add in a single occupancy unisex/gender neutral facility, in just the same way they have had to provide an 'accessible' facility.

I have also emailed my local Green Party candidate asking for her opinion on the SC judgment. I haven't heard as yet and I'm very interested to see her reply, if she does respond.

I am not talking about service providers. I am talking about groups (associations in the EqA2010) that want to be able to include two different types of people and exclude all others.

I’m going to spoil my ballot paper, I’m not voting for any of them.

It's so stupid. This was the chance to behave like a grown up, for Denyer to say "look, this is a decision the highest court in the land made after careful deliberation, lets accept this ruling and work to ensure everybody's, women and trans people, rights are respected according to the law as it stands", but no, chance blown. Same goes for the LibDems. Eejits, the lot of them.

@RipleyJones I have known 3 trans women. 2 of them turned out to be paedophiles and one it wouldn’t surprise me at all if something proves they are in the future. All three very very eager to insert themselves into every volunteer role possible where they could be around young children.

Daft of the Greens to defy the equality law on sex when they are being sued for sexism by Emma Bateman and others.

Emma Bateman
In light of the doubling down on the position of 'trans rights trump all else' by
carla_denyer & TheGreenParty
, I am sharing my crowd funder for my legal action against the Greens.
I have a hearing on May 27th
Please share widely, all funds are gratefully received.
Thanks

The Greens already lost the case against Shahrar Ali. The supreme court verdict makes the other cases even more likely to be easy wins. This could bankrupt the Greens.

RipleyJones · Yesterday 15:28

Just Like Us’ research was carried out independently by Cibyl in January 2023.’
1st June.. interesting how it’s not published yet, when the research was undertaken in January 2023

Yes, it's really rather instructive that they are choosing to employ two year old data, of dubious provenance, especially taking into account the huge change in legal and political landscape, these two weeks since.

The Just Like Me survey was conducted online on 3695 young adults on Cibyl’s database. Cibyl is a survey firm that focuses on young people in training and education. Just over half were 18-21, just under half were 22-25.

Out of these 3695, 2921 were students.

1736 described themselves as lgbt+ from several categories of the alphabet.

I find it hard to believe that 47% of a random sample of 18-25 year olds would be trans. Not a convincing study.

They are going to end up being like the Reform party, but of the extreme Left......though not as popular as Reform.

Lots of Labour 'progressives' have already migrated. I imagine they think more will now follow.

Yes me too. I even supported them in other ways back in the day. It's very upsetting what they've become.
I hope someone in the party either starts a new party that goes back to the original remit, or they very quickly get the genderist expelled so they can make their own party.

Its mind boggling isnt it. They've been handed a really easy way out of looking like misogynistic fools and could have simply moved onto campaigning for 3rd spaces. Instead they have decided this is thd hill to die on.

I assume they live in such a bubble that they don't realise that most people disagree with them - that and the fact they want to be seen doing it differently to the Labour Party who appear to have accepted the ruling.