LGBTphobia - what does this mean after supreme Court judgement

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Just that really. Local leisure centre full of these posters warning against LGBTphobia. What does this actually mean now?

If its LA run that staff are likely engaged in misuse of public funds and/or need proper guidance of the benefits of clear messages when commissioning artwork for posters if spending public money🤷‍♀️

Warning against lgbt phobia ? What exactly do you mean ? That they won’t tolerate abuse based on sexuality ir gender ?

it’s clear after the judgement many transgender people felt( rightly or wrongly ) this might embolden people to abuse them , physically or verbally. ( and remember it’s big just women who are aware of the verdict and the issues now )

abuse is still , rightly , illegal. There is nothing wrong with reassuring people that would be taken seriously surely? Reassuring them that if they have problems of accessibility now they should feel free to approach staff and ask what the arrangements are?

Meh - hyperbole & hysteria.

Homophobia and transphobia are 2 different things for 2 different protected characteristics. It's the forced teaming of the T with LGB that has done so much to promote the transitioning of children who may well end up as gay (real life conversion therapy) and the attempted eradication of same sex attraction - now fortunately stopped by the Supreme Court judgment.

Presumably it's a leisure centre with safeguarding breaching mixed sex changing rooms and showers - so beloved by creeps like this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/25/devout-christian-secretly-filmed-women-in-changing-room/

Archive link:
https://archive.ph/aBkjG

Absolutely abuse of any kind should not be tolerated. But we are slowly leaving behind a period where asserting the right to sex based accommodations as per the Equality Act has been deemed abusive.

Since it is not possible to tell someone"s sexuality just by looking at them, I suspect the manager/staff are trying to discourage users from complaining about transpeople in wrong sex spaces - realistically mainly transwomen.

The Supreme Court has just confirmed that users have every right to complain about this, so the manager/staff would be on shaky ground.

Yes it is. Its one where I was harassed by boys in their unisex changing rooms and finally two years ago installed bars over the top and extended the lower partitions between the cubicles.

It means the same as before, and covers exactly the same people as before.

The only difference is that some trans people who considered themselves L or G are now clearly not that in law. But they're still trans, so still under the LGBT umbrella.

That's my feeling. It creates a very hostile environment imo

Indeed but we should be magnanimous ( if we can - I know that’s not at the top of many peoples minds after what we have been living through )

As a previous poster points out, it's very stressful to see a facility that is meant to be for everybody, promoting gender identity which erases same sex attraction. The sign in itself is homophobic and will be experienced as such by many users

By adding the T - which was done without any consultation or permission from the existing lesbian and gay community - 'LGBT' became a nonsensical acronym.
It combines two separate groups with two different sets of issues and identities: people who are same-sex attracted, and people who think they can change sex.

Because TRAs claim any critique of transgenderism is transphobia, it will always be possible to claim there is a campaign of 'phobia' against the LGBT community - but remove the T from the acronym and from the community, and it is a very different picture.

Obviously there is still some homophobia in society, and ironically the specific form of it that is directed at lesbians is alive and well and thriving in transgenderism which argues that men can be lesbians and lesbians are transphobic if they decline to have sex with male lesbians.

I'm pretty sure this neologism 'LGBTphobia' is all about the trans, and all about getting around the SC ruling about single sex spaces. It's meaningless, and is just more of the catastrophising that has been going on since the ruling.

LGB✂T

Phobia is not abuse.

I can be as phobic as anyone can be but it is when the phobia creates an action that the staff may need to react.

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Dear users

Due to the recent court ruling

[ Single sex provision is single sex ]
[ Mixed sex provision is mixed sex provision ]
[ We have individual provision if needed ]
[ We currently only have communal provision ]

While on the premises comply with all the rules of the venue.

Members are responsible for the conduct of their guests but not other users

If you have questions or a problem with the conduct of another user our staff are available.

Please treat all staff and fellow users with respect

Abuse of any kind is not allowed and may result in our staff request you and your guests leave the venue.
[ Saff may also call the police ]

Failure to follow rules may result our staff request you and your guests leave an area of the venue or the venue itself.

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it would be good policy to highlight if venue had been engaged with unlawful provision of services and that provision has now changed.

It makes it clear to everybody what the rules are and if the case has resulted in changes to access everybody now knows its by their sex.

And happily very few people dont know their own sex.

So the staff can say to a member
And do you know telling us a lie about it can result in you and your guests being removed from the venue?
Do you know which sex you are and can you ask your guest too?
And have a respectful conversation from that starting point.

LGBT is not a category of people recognised by the Equality Act or, as far as I am aware, any other UK legislation.

Would it be worth emailing requesting clarity of what the poster actually means? Probably not, but I might anyway

Trans ideology has created a hostile environment for women and children since the first demands for men to access women and girls undressing. Leisure centres have no business enabling all this - as Swim England found out after their young elite female swimmers found themselves on view as they were naked and getting into their tight fitting swimwear observed by this man claiming to be a woman.
Unbelievable that organisations have allowed this to happen to women and girls - just shows how flawed their narratives about "safeguarding" are. Hopefully the SC judgment will finally put a stop to it:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12350741/Parents-raised-concerns-transgender-pool-official-using-womens-changing-room-time-young-girls.html