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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Law firms in a muddle. (Roll on Friday)

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Imnobody4 · 25/04/2025 10:36

https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-law-firms-get-sex-muddle-over-supreme-court-verdict
Lewis Silkin was accused of being "grossly misleading" when it produced an analysis of the verdict which advised that men who identified as women were still entitled to use the single sex facilities of their choice in the workplace, and that employers who stopped transwomen from doing so could be sued for discrimination.“If employers do provide single sex spaces then (based on previous cases) it is likely to be gender reassignment discrimination to bar trans people from using the facilities of their choice. As this does not relate to GRCs [Gender Recognition Certificates], it is unaltered by the Court’s judgment", stated the analysis........After ROF asked the Law Society if the template policy, promoted by the SRA, potentially placed firms which adopted it in legal jeopardy following the ruling, it added a note at the top of the document warning, “We are currently reviewing this guidance in light of the recent Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland Ltd v The Scottish Ministers. Firms should continue to seek their own advice on these issues as applicable to their own circumstances”. The document, drafted by the Law Society's LGBT+ Committee and transwoman barrister Robin Moira White, also states that a “refusal to accept a trans person's gender identity” constitutes transphobia, which would now appear to catch the justices of the Supreme Court.Former tax barrister Jolyon Maugham, who runs the Good Law Project, might approve. Having predicted that "FWS will lose. The law really is pretty clear", following the verdict he posted on Bluesky that "There is a very real basis to believe - and I am a KC with an unblemished record - to believe that something very bad, delegitimising, happened in the Supreme Court", and claimed that the judges were "hubristic, reckless or bigoted".

EXCLUSIVE Law firms get in a sex muddle over Supreme Court verdict

XX or XY? X%@* this!

https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-law-firms-get-sex-muddle-over-supreme-court-verdict

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Merrymouse · 27/04/2025 16:58

Signalbox · 27/04/2025 16:22

JM is doing seriously well out of his latest grift. 180K so far. Seems there are a lot of people out there who are heavily invested in undermining women's rights.

Well his argument is at least colourful - I mean, Nazis!

But doesn’t he still have to find a case?

And in most cases wouldn’t the remedy just be adequate mixed sex or unisex provision?

Stepfordian · 27/04/2025 17:22

The NHS should never have done these operations in the first place, it’s mutilation and should never have been funded or approved by the state.

potpourree · 27/04/2025 19:03

'....Not a transwoman, not trans, not experiencing gender dysphoria: a “post operative transsexual”. This is not the activist interpretation of Goodwin, which seeks access to female spaces for men who identify as women, regardless of physiology.
The specific detriments that the Court recognised the Applicant to have suffered were:

  1. Ineligibility to claim a pension at the female pensionable age of 60
  2. Ineligibility to claim sex discrimination, because she was legally male
  1. Dismissal or non-hiring for work
4. Harassment at work 5. Having to reveal her sex to the DSS in order to attend appointments 6. Paying NI contribs for longer 7. Inability to marry (it would be a same sex marriage) 8. Inability to change birth certificate

None of these detriments persist today (or, if they do, are unlawful, which is all the state can do to prevent them). FWS does not change this. I don’t therefore see how FWS places the UK in breach of its Convention obligations, or of the decision in Goodwin.'...

Very clear - thanks for the link!

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