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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lord cashmans latest nonsense

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Hoardasurass · 25/04/2025 08:22

So apparently according to lord cashman transwomen are thinking about fleeing the UK and trying to claim asylum elsewhere, all because of the sc ruling. The clear implication of this is that we should strip all human rights from women and hand them over to men so they don't run away to countries like Germany where women have no rights and get €10000 fine for correctly sexing a man in their formally single sex spaces.
I wonder if they even realise quite how ridiculously unhinged they come across or if they even care.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/24/trans-people-seek-asylum-abroad-after-supreme-court-ruling/

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zanahoria · 25/04/2025 08:45

Does he know the difference between moving abroad and seeking asylum? The latter requires somebody to prove a deep seated fear of persecution. There may be nations that are more amenable to some members of the trans community than the UK but I would be surprised if any would accuse the UK of persecuting the trans community.

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/04/2025 08:48

I can imagine quite a number already spend considerable amounts of time in the Berlin 'underground' scene.

ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 08:48

Archive

https://archive.ph/7360A

Nicely dry quotation: “It is believed that no one has previously fled Britain to seek asylum in another country”.

Do Cashman and others seriously see themselves as people who will set up the C21 equivalent of Underground Railroads to whisk people to safety?

Materially, not phantasmagorically, safety from what? The realisation that their rights do not trump those of others and nor can others be compelled to accept their immersive fiction?

BlueEyedBogWitch · 25/04/2025 08:49

Go on then, off you pop.

Don’t let the door hit you on the arse on your way out

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/04/2025 08:51

I imagine that we are ahead of the game here in Britain regards the madness of conflating the concept of gender with the reality of sex...and that in time other European countries will follow suit.

TheOtherRaven · 25/04/2025 08:53

This will largely be the peeing everywhere, defacing and vandalising property, screaming and waving threats of sexual violence/GBH/murder on placards crowd, right? I'm sure other countries will be queing up to offer them welcome. I hope they'll all be very happy.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/04/2025 08:54

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/04/2025 08:51

I imagine that we are ahead of the game here in Britain regards the madness of conflating the concept of gender with the reality of sex...and that in time other European countries will follow suit.

Some have, unfortunately, already dug themselves in deep and removed sex based rights.

ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 08:56

TheOtherRaven · 25/04/2025 08:53

This will largely be the peeing everywhere, defacing and vandalising property, screaming and waving threats of sexual violence/GBH/murder on placards crowd, right? I'm sure other countries will be queing up to offer them welcome. I hope they'll all be very happy.

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Oh, if you put like that, I volunteer for sandwich making or shopping for juice boxes.

SionnachRuadh · 25/04/2025 08:57

This will be the equivalent of the liberal American celebrities who, every time there's a presidential election, threaten to move to Canada if their candidate doesn't win.

I suspect Lord Cashman's friends go to a different school.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/04/2025 09:01

zanahoria · 25/04/2025 08:45

Does he know the difference between moving abroad and seeking asylum? The latter requires somebody to prove a deep seated fear of persecution. There may be nations that are more amenable to some members of the trans community than the UK but I would be surprised if any would accuse the UK of persecuting the trans community.

yes. Having a trans identity is entirely legal in the U.K. and ‘gender reassignment’ (a broad term which unlike sex doesn’t seem to be clearly defined and afaik no one is pushing for it to be clarified) is an explicitly protected characteristic. It’s a million miles away from legitimate asylum seekers at risk for eg being gay in a country which harshly punishes homosexuals, or religious apostates, or political dissenters in totalitarian regimes.
There are of course many women who should be eligible for asylum here but they haven’t a hope in hell of escaping.

zanahoria · 25/04/2025 09:13

The countries that would accuse Britain of human rights abuses may not be to Cashman's friends liking.

I suppose Iran may take pity as they are committed to the trans the gay away ideology

WomensSports · 25/04/2025 09:14

Oh look they're erasing women again.

Plenty of women have fled Britain in fear of "forced adoption" to countries like Ireland and France where the legal system regarding removal of children at birth doesn't work the same way, but obviously they don't count, their experiences aren't real, because they're just women.

I'm not saying these women were right to do it or that they necessarily deserved to keep their children (that's a whole separate thing), but what I'm saying is, there's been cases of women fleeing abroad because they believe they won't have the right to keep their child, and this is just leaving the country due to perception anyway.

So no, trans people aren't the "first" to leave the country because of their perception that they don't feel safe here, if we ignore the dramatic posturing of unrealistic legal asylum cases. They're just hanging on women's coat tails again and erasing women in the process.

OvaHere · 25/04/2025 09:31

I predict that none of these people threatening to leave will go anywhere and I doubt Mulvaney will leave the US either.

PruthePrune · 25/04/2025 09:36

Cashman always spouts hyperbolic BS.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/04/2025 09:47

They've...They've just been asked to use the men's loos rather than the women's loos? Bit of a major overreaction there.

TheHereticalOne · 25/04/2025 09:50

Personally, I feel unfairly teased by the suggestion that the very sub-section of trans people determined to ensure that women have no recognition as a class, and no distinct rights in either law or in fact will be leaving the UK.

Does this mean we'll be left only with reasonable people who understand that everyone's rights have to be balanced and accommodated as far as possible for the common good?

Don't threaten me with a good time.

PronounssheRa · 25/04/2025 09:55

Cashman doesn't understand what asylum is and his hyperbole is pretty offensive to people who have to flee actual persecution

In the UK trans people are not persucuted by the state, they have protections in law and the police have demonstrated many times that they are able and willing to enforce those laws.

Hoardasurass · 25/04/2025 10:04

ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 08:56

Oh, if you put like that, I volunteer for sandwich making or shopping for juice boxes.

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I'll help them pack

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ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 11:47

Hoardasurass · 25/04/2025 10:04

I'll help them pack

Farewell Tunnocks or not?

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