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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Black and Beech - so disappointed

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TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 25/04/2025 06:04

Has anyone else seen the rant by Black and Beech (online shop selling feminist hand warmers, clothing etc)? With all the messaging around ‘resist, persist, feminist’ etc, I genuinely thought they knew what biology was. Instead there’s just a massive rant about how trans women are women and how the ruling (which just clarified the law rather than taking anyone’s away) was wrong. Completely hypocritical. I’d been eyeing up some expensive clothes - glad I didn’t click buy!

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yetanotherusernameAgain · 25/04/2025 06:21

Never heard of them. But your post will probably drive traffic to their website so they'll be pleased by that.

"slogan garments" and a manifesto to "create ethical fashion to inform and inspire feminist revolution" but think TW are women. Yes, it is odd.

TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 25/04/2025 06:29

Dammit, I didn’t think of that - I just couldn’t believe the sheer hypocrisy though. Surely the majority of people buying from there are actual feminists who know about biology?

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OuterSpaceCadet · 25/04/2025 06:55

Ha yes I've bought from them in the past.

I'm torn. On the one hand I try not to fund misogyny. And I'm fucking sick of privileged women giving away the consent of women like me. It's usually the rich girls that end up running these businesses and heading the charities (yes I have a huge chip on my shoulder plz pass the vinegar).

On the other hand these same privileged women are still my sisters and trans ideology screws them over too. Many will have their moment when the penny drops but will be in less influential positions by then as maternity discrimination bites hard.

What has been the actual aim of trans activism? Arguably to weaken feminism (and perhaps Labour /the left, depending on how tin foil you're feeling). Is a good response to it to continue to stand with women, even those who disagree?

TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 25/04/2025 07:12

I think for me I would always stand with women to fight for their biology and sex-based rights. But will I give those women who support misogyny my hard earned money to support their little privileged handmaiden business? Nope.

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ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 08:01

OuterSpaceCadet · 25/04/2025 06:55

Ha yes I've bought from them in the past.

I'm torn. On the one hand I try not to fund misogyny. And I'm fucking sick of privileged women giving away the consent of women like me. It's usually the rich girls that end up running these businesses and heading the charities (yes I have a huge chip on my shoulder plz pass the vinegar).

On the other hand these same privileged women are still my sisters and trans ideology screws them over too. Many will have their moment when the penny drops but will be in less influential positions by then as maternity discrimination bites hard.

What has been the actual aim of trans activism? Arguably to weaken feminism (and perhaps Labour /the left, depending on how tin foil you're feeling). Is a good response to it to continue to stand with women, even those who disagree?

Stitching round undermining women’s rights.

April 1990, married women in the UK were recognised as autonomous, independent entities by HMRC. Their income was no longer treated as their husband’s income.
October 1991 (in England), it was established that rape within marriage is unlawful.

Less than 15 years later, debates in the House of Lords accurately anticipated the consequences for women if the GRA were to pass. Nonetheless, it did.

From women sloughing off some of the last vestiges of being property and existing as a recognisable class with legal autonomy, to being socially and (il)legally reclassified as no more than a feeling. Less than 15 years if GRA 2004 is your marker. Less than 20 years if it’s the clash with EqA 2010.

Adjust the timelines for women in Scotland, NI, and Wales.

Seriestwo · 25/04/2025 08:10

go woke go broke. Shame, I aspired to that cardigan

LividRah · 25/04/2025 08:12

Spark Company are the same. Still buy from both of them though.

OuterSpaceCadet · 25/04/2025 09:15

ItisntOver · 25/04/2025 08:01

Stitching round undermining women’s rights.

April 1990, married women in the UK were recognised as autonomous, independent entities by HMRC. Their income was no longer treated as their husband’s income.
October 1991 (in England), it was established that rape within marriage is unlawful.

Less than 15 years later, debates in the House of Lords accurately anticipated the consequences for women if the GRA were to pass. Nonetheless, it did.

From women sloughing off some of the last vestiges of being property and existing as a recognisable class with legal autonomy, to being socially and (il)legally reclassified as no more than a feeling. Less than 15 years if GRA 2004 is your marker. Less than 20 years if it’s the clash with EqA 2010.

Adjust the timelines for women in Scotland, NI, and Wales.

Edited

Thanks for that sobering reminder.

What blows my mind is I was a (very wayward) teenager in the mid to late 90s and none of that shit was on my radar. Shameful. I had a lot of internalised misogyny all the way up to my 30s.

But perhaps it puts in perspective the devastating lack of action following the various sexual assaults I and my friends experienced back then. We always internalised the blame, never any analysis.

Supersimkin7 · 25/04/2025 09:18

B+B appear a little confused. No more £££ from us for a bit, I suggest.

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