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Keir Starmer "adult female" niggle or am I nitpicking?

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lechiffre55 · 23/04/2025 09:37

Is anyone else getting this wierd vibe that Keir Starmer still doesn't get it.
I'm grateful for the adult female bit, but that the word human got left out makes me think he's just repeating a few words without really understanding what he's saying.

If all adult females are women then adult females of all species are women, cows, dogs, cats, bees, elephants etc.....

There's a test for dementia that involves three words being spoken and then requested to be spoken back. Is "adult human female" really that difficult to remember?

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EweSurname · 23/04/2025 16:36

Wasn’t starmer’s previously position that TWAW because they had a GRC? So I can see why people would want him to say ‘biological’ to underline that he knows it’s material reality sex and not piece of paper sex.

EweSurname · 23/04/2025 16:39

But of course, TRA’s make the claim that they are biological females too so perhaps it is nitpicking!

AcquadiP · 23/04/2025 16:43

I have never trusted Starmer and he's said and done nothing as PM to cause me to revise my opinion. You're not nitpicking, he knows the value of words, it was a deliberate omission.

JohnTheRevelator · 23/04/2025 17:09

TheOtherRaven · 23/04/2025 09:39

From experience so far, I would personally not rely on that man to tell me the right time. I doubt it was accidental.

He does however get the head teacher's sticker in assembly this week for stuffing the most forms of the word 'clear' into a comment.

What is it with politicians and the word 'clear'? I think their favourite phrase is 'Let's be absolutely clear'.

Silversixpenny · 24/04/2025 00:30

JeremiahBullfrog · 23/04/2025 10:50

I think this is unreasonable. We know what he means. He's not writing a dictionary and his word isn't law.

Here's another thing people say: "born a woman". I'm sure people on here must say it. Of course nobody is strictly born a woman, when you are born you are a girl. But we wouldn't accuse somebody who used that phrase of not knowing what they were talking about, as if they actually believed people can be born as adults.

Conceived as a female/male.

Sex actualised at conception.

GlutesthatSalute · 24/04/2025 09:28

JohnTheRevelator · 23/04/2025 17:09

What is it with politicians and the word 'clear'? I think their favourite phrase is 'Let's be absolutely clear'.

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They're all Tony Blair clones and it was one of his, or rather Campbell's, pet phrases.

Dishonest, amoral, warmongering, pleb-despising Blair clones.

Bertiebiscuit · 09/02/2026 15:46

Old school Lefty bloke misogynist. I rest my case.

Bertiebiscuit · 09/02/2026 15:55

Never forget he is a lawyer first and a politician second, legal minds will use whatever argument will sway the jury regardless of what they personally believe or generally know to be true.

Bertiebiscuit · 09/02/2026 15:59

Never heard that, but it would definitely explain a lot if that is the case, and tbh his family is exactly the demographic that would fall for this social contagion

Bertiebiscuit · 09/02/2026 16:07

I love how the likes of Starmer keep saying "let's be clear" as he proceeds to muddy the waters, hide problems with slight of hand, and play "look at this, not at that". 100% from politicians playbook.

5128gap · 09/02/2026 22:44

ScholesPanda · 23/04/2025 11:20

I think it was deliberate so that he couldn't be accused of quoting Posie Parker.

That'll be it. AHF is not just a factual description it's a slogan and he was probably avoiding it for that reason. I don't think we need fear he's deliberately leaving a loop hole to allow cows sows, does, pens and vixens to don frocks and wigs and insist on using the ladies.

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