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Police now able to sack officers who fail vetting

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/04/2025 09:10

Astoundingly, failing a background check was not - up to now - a permissable reason for dismissal.

Which explains a lot.

From next month it will be a legal requirement for officers to pass a background check, and those who don't can be dismissed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26y74qy3no

A female police officer and a male police officer, seen from the back in high visibility uniforms which say "Police" on them. Both are wearing black police hats

Police chiefs granted powers to remove officers unfit for duty

Police chiefs will be able to automatically sack officers who fail background checks, under new measures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26y74qy3no

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PinkFrogss · 23/04/2025 09:14

How the actual fuck has this only happened now?

AgnesX · 23/04/2025 09:15

Should think so too. It should never have been an issue to begin with. Police personnel should be squeaky clean.

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 23/04/2025 09:17

You'd have thought failing a background check would be a prime reason to get dunted long before now.

MargotB · 23/04/2025 09:21

This is long overdue.

I can't understand why it wasn't a standard part of the recruitment process, and people wouldn't/couldn't start work until they had the 'all clear'. It seems illogical to employ people to enforce the law when the relevant checks haven't been done on them.

ooooohnoooooo · 23/04/2025 09:24

I worked at the Met a few years back (not as an officer) and there was a huge vetting backlog. People were allowed to work there on temporary clearance whilst waiting for full which could take months (and in some cases years). The temp clearance was reviewed every 6 months.

One man (in a critical role) then failed his clearance. He was immediately escorted off the premises. All IT access revoked, pass confiscated.

I find it really hard to understand how this has happened historically. Utter madness.

I work in tech and know the damage someone can do with access to police type systems. It's extraordinary that police forces have allowed this.

Utterly shameful.

Part of the issue has also been shoddy service and backlogs at home office who administer clearances nationwide. Underfunded, inefficient and in my (historic) experience. Hopefully it's better now.

Imnobody4 · 23/04/2025 10:53

Article in the Times

https://www.thetimes.com/article/bfd90d1f-939e-4ae1-ae84-697728b0a909?shareToken=a91836f17920528a6537917056f91d45

It comes after an officer who was stripped of his warrant card after ­allegations that he raped a woman won a judicial review against the Metropolitan Police. Sergeant Lino Di Maria, who mounted the legal challenge against the force in February, claimed the ­decision breached his human rights. He denies the rape ­allegations.

Police will be automatically sacked if they fail vetting

Officers will be legally required to pass checks introduced after the murder of Sarah Everard, making it easier for chiefs to sack those unfit to serve

https://www.thetimes.com/article/bfd90d1f-939e-4ae1-ae84-697728b0a909

BiologicalRobot · 23/04/2025 11:23

What???

Aren't you supposed to pass background checks BEFORE starting the job???

How many other professions allow that? I know childminders can't until they've been checked.

printLine · 23/04/2025 11:52

I can’t even help poolside during my child’s swimming lessons until my background check has been done.
Why can’t checks be prioritised for Police etc.

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 23/04/2025 11:58

printLine · 23/04/2025 11:52

I can’t even help poolside during my child’s swimming lessons until my background check has been done.
Why can’t checks be prioritised for Police etc.

I can't be a volunteer with the NHS making tea and coffee at a vaccination centre till background check is completed.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 23/04/2025 12:01

I think this is media skew- in the case posted above at least.

police are all vetted before we can take up a role. That has always been the case. There are some officers who have started training before their vetting comes through, then dismissed. You will also lose your job for failing vetting.

the above case the officer was accused- not found guilty, accused only of a crime. The met used a loophole in the vetting system to sack him without due process by “failing” his vetting based on the accusation only. So in effect they found him guilty with no trial or investigation. That is why he won the case.

what they should have done is suspended him until after the investigation. It’s usually criminal proceedings first, then a police review to decide whether they are dismissed, regardless of the criminal outcome.

we have a legal process for a reason. No one decides guilt without that process being followed.

think about it- you’re a police officer who holds down a violent offender to arrest them. They accuse you of assault. Or you’re a dog handler and let your dog go, for the dog to bite that offender. This then is used to fail your vetting and you get sacked, with no review of whether your actions were proportionate or justified. We’d have no officers left.

mumda · 23/04/2025 12:03

MargotB · 23/04/2025 09:21

This is long overdue.

I can't understand why it wasn't a standard part of the recruitment process, and people wouldn't/couldn't start work until they had the 'all clear'. It seems illogical to employ people to enforce the law when the relevant checks haven't been done on them.

It is for everyone else though.

My sibling has to wait until her DBS comes back before she can start work.

It is bizarre.

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