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Supreme Court Decision Regarding Definition of Woman Does Not Extend to Northern Ireland

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UtopiaPlanitia · 19/04/2025 00:49

The Equality Act 2010 has never applied in Northern Ireland so now we wait and see what happens for women's rights here:

https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2025-04-16/really-disappointed-trans-people-react-to-supreme-court-ruling

"Bev Jackson, from the LGB Alliance, has said she wants to help campaigners who are advocating for a similar judgement in Northern Ireland.She said: "Other countries are lookingto us and I hope that we will be able to help our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters in Northern Ireland to achieve a similar position.""

The Irish News
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/ni-campaigners-voice-concern-and-delight-over-supreme-court-gender-ruling-3RCLDW4BM5FM7EQ7GEGEXLXYHU/

https://archive.ph/lunfu

"CAMPAIGNERS in Northern Ireland have reacted with both concern and delight after the UK’s highest court ruled that the definition of a woman refers to biological sex. The impacted legislation, the Equality Act, does not extend to Northern Ireland but Stormont’s Department of Finance has said it “will consider the implications of the ruling by the Supreme Court in terms of gender recognition”.

Belfast Telegraph
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ni-political-parties-react-to-uk-supreme-court-ruling-on-definition-of-woman-as-lgbt-group-warns-of-concern/a1160661687.html

https://archive.ph/LOoJc

""The Ulster Unionist Party’s Justice spokesperson Doug Beattie said the ruling “has major implications for the application of the Equality legislation in Northern Ireland” which he said affirmed that “transgender women are not women.”

“The Supreme Court has, unanimously, ruled that a woman is an adult biological female and identified as the sex at birth,” he said.

"Those from the transgender community exist and this ruling does not take away their rights as a protected group, but it does make it clear that they are transgender not women."
He also said the ruling “could affect the present Prison Service ‘Guidelines on the Care and Management of Transgender Prisoners’ and called for it the matter to be “addressed urgently.”

“It is important that the Equality Commission advise the Executive on this issue at pace and with a sense of urgency.

“This ruling has a direct impact on the Sex Discrimination (Northern Ireland) Order 1976, the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulation (Northern Ireland) 2006 and the Gender Recognition Act 2004. For Northern Ireland to remain an outlier on this issue would be unthinkable.”

NI political parties react to UK Supreme Court ruling on definition of woman as LGBT group warns of ‘concern’

A decision by the UK Supreme Court on the definition of a woman has been welcomed by Unionists in Northern Ireland.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ni-political-parties-react-to-uk-supreme-court-ruling-on-definition-of-woman-as-lgbt-group-warns-of-concern/a1160661687.html

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/04/2025 07:14

I wish the campaigners the best of luck, taking a side in NI can often be life threatening.

UtopiaPlanitia · 19/04/2025 13:51

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/04/2025 07:14

I wish the campaigners the best of luck, taking a side in NI can often be life threatening.

You’re right, inexplicably this issue seems to have been split between the parties on sectarian lines with Unionist parties supporting women’s rights and the Nationalist & Alliance & Greens going full throttle in support of TRAs. It’s basically the same here as Scotland and Wales - women have huge roadblocks placed in the way of them even speaking about the issue in public.

The WRN group here was finally, after much time, been allowed to address MLAs in a parliamentary committee recently but the true believer MLAs spent their time lecturing the women for being insufficiently kind and nice in standing up for women’s rights.

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MementoMountain · 19/04/2025 13:53

"Those from the transgender community exist and this ruling does not take away their rights as a protected group, but it does make it clear that they are transgender not women."

Oh look, they forgot the transmen again.

ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 14:04

Was it Ceri Black that kept being hauled out by PSNI at the behest of Scotland’s own David Paisley?

Did that ever fully resolve for her?

Did Man at Bus stop ever follow through on his declaration that he would emigrate to feel safe somewhere or other?

UtopiaPlanitia · 19/04/2025 14:23

ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 14:04

Was it Ceri Black that kept being hauled out by PSNI at the behest of Scotland’s own David Paisley?

Did that ever fully resolve for her?

Did Man at Bus stop ever follow through on his declaration that he would emigrate to feel safe somewhere or other?

Yes, it was Ceri Black who was repeatedly harassed by use of PSNI. I don’t know how that case was resolved but PSNI are another police force (like Surrey and West Yorkshire) that are trying to make up for decades of racism and sexism by going all in on Trans).

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