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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Outrage

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Overlappingwaves · 10/04/2025 15:52

May I ask for some advice? I saw my daughter (23) yesterday for the first time in months, and she gave me a book about supporting LGBTQ+ etc, she said she wasn't sure about giving it as a birthday present, bless her. It's called 'Outrage' by Ellen Jones.

I was really excited as it's a step towards some common ground and understanding, a gesture at least. I started reading it last night and even the first paragraph sounded really loaded. I looked at the endnotes and there are a lot of references, all of them online (Stonewall, BBC, Pink News, etc), all very biased, and I can't see anything research based at all.

I am trying to read it anyway, but it is so hard - all about attacks and targeting. I think the only way I can read it all is to pull it apart 😬 I want my daughter to see how loaded it is without offending her. And I'm only on the introduction so far!

This is so uncomfortable. Any ideas on how to deal with this? Thanks, love x

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Randomer27 · 10/04/2025 15:55

Maybe send her a copy of Kathleen Stock, or Hags in return!

jambunny · 10/04/2025 16:00

Buy her a copy of “Trans” by Helen Joyce, and maybe “The women who wouldn’t wheesht” for good measure.

jambunny · 10/04/2025 16:01

And tell her you’ll read hers but only if she reads the ones you send her, and you’ll get together to discuss at a later date.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/04/2025 17:46

I second The women who wouldn't wheesht!

Fairs fair, you need to examine both sides - right?

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