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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Misogyny in schools

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ArabellaScott · 09/04/2025 07:08

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr0zw65lro

Well, we've been talking about this as a problem since the year dot.

I wish I had more faith that measures taken would actually address the problem and not just cause more problems.

A number of boys are playing basketball on a court outside a school building. They are in short-sleeved white shirts and it is a bright, sunny day.

A third of teachers reported pupil misogyny last week - survey

Teachers also told a survey commissioned by BBC News they feel ill-equipped to tackle the issue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr0zw65lro

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Treaclewell · 09/04/2025 16:27

Shelagh Fogarty on LBC spent a two hour slot mostly about this. The callers' stories were appalling. A whole class of boys exposing themselves to a female teacher. A girl had her genitals touched and pushed the boy off a stool. She was sanctioned. Though CCTV showed the incident nothing was done to the boy, The teacher who drew attention to the CCTV mysteriously ceased to teach at the school. A boy was suspended for something, the parents fussed, the boy was readmitted to the same class as the girl. One boy, inadequately dealt with went to actual rape in his twenties. A teacher resigned as she could not tolerate the endless sexual harassment.
Obviously the calls were biassed, providing a picture of schools again and again covering up things which in the outside world would be regarded as crimes.
They were not examples of misogyny. They need a much stronger word than that.
A man called Terry provided a string of suitable words, bless him

ArabellaScott · 09/04/2025 17:43

Yes, it seems so pervasive as to be completely accepted as the norm.

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Treaclewell · 10/04/2025 12:23

The word we should be using is gynophobia. The other side has used the phobia suffix effectively, and when they use misandry as a counter to misogyny it just makes both words ineffective, which is what they want. Androphobia on the other hand can be answered by asking what about men should not make us afraid.
Don't know why I didn't think of it before.

Igmum · 10/04/2025 12:45

We need people to take VAWG and misogyny seriously. Ignore it in schools and it doesn’t go away, it escalates. I’m appalled at these examples of punishing the girls. This is deeply wrong

ArabellaScott · 10/04/2025 12:59

One risk that I can see developing is that some people have alighted on one single possible factor - mobile phones and internet usage - and look to be in the process of deciding that this is the cause and therefore the cure/fix.

There is no easy fix.

Our world runs on misogyny. Challenging it and changing it is an unimaginably large task. Many, if not most, people don't even really believe it exists, or the extent of it.

Stats for child abuse, sexual assault, and dv are all considerably worse for women and girls. And perpetrators are overwhelmingly male.

CSA

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/childabuseinenglandandwales/january2020

'Around one in four women (25%; 5.1 million) ....experienced abuse before the age of 16 years.
Prevalence was higher for females than males for each type of abuse, with the exception of physical abuse where there was no difference.'

Sexual assault/abuse

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/

'9 in 10 girls and young women in schools say:
Sexist name-calling and being sent unwanted 'dick pics' or other images of a sexual nature happens to them or other girls and young women their age.'

'How many women are raped or sexually assaulted every year?
798,000*
That's 1 in 30 women. So, probably at least one woman you know was raped or sexually assaulted in the last 12 months.'

Domestic abuse

https://www.ncdv.org.uk/domestic-abuse-statistics-uk/

'1 in 5 adults experience Domestic Abuse during their lifetime. This equates to: 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6-7 men. '

And of course all of these things are under reported.

Child abuse in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Statistics and research on child abuse in England and Wales, bringing together a range of different data sources from across government and the voluntary sector.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/childabuseinenglandandwales/january2020

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